We have tried that repeatedly, with Google Fiber and Clear and others and it 
has failed repeatedly.  I don't think you are going to ever see it for the 
following reasons:

1) The large data consumer apps are watching TV over the Internet.  Back in 
"the olden days" when you bought "cable tv" service it was still data on the 
back end.  Now it's data all the way to the customer and they are watching TV 
on smart tv's and web browsers.  So the content providers who want the best 
experience for their customers have to put media servers close to the 
customers.   The major content providers - the movie studios - Disney, 
Paramount, and so on - are busy killing off Hulu and Netflix and the other 2nd 
raters who thought they could build a business model out of brokering content 
they didn't create.  Those studios are fine with putting media servers at the 
major ISPs like Comcast, Century Link/Lumen, and so on because those companies 
have tons of subscribers.  But they won't put media servers at small ISP's thus 
leading to a poor experience watching TV on a small ISP

2) The largest ISPs avoid having to buy Internet connectivity themselves by 
selling Internet connectivity on their network via peering agreements.   So for 
example Verizon has a fiber circuit from PDX to LAX and Lumen has a fiber 
circuit from PDX to LAX and they both agree to pay each other no money but 
instead share each other's circuits and thus get access to each other's 
customers.  In reality peering agreements are a lot more complex but you get 
the idea.  The large ISPs only have to pay for the actual cost of maintaining 
the fiber they don't have to pay the marked-up cost of buying a running circuit 
from someone else.

3) The FTC long ago made the decision that land line and cellular providers are 
selling the same thing (they are not but the FTC is run by old white guys who 
thing Internet is a misspelling of what Skippy sells in jars) and so all you 
need is a monopoly telephone company in one area and a cellular company and 
immediately the Sherman Anti-trust act no longer applies.  Some people more 
cynical than I might assume that this has something to do with the government 
trying to move the cost of providing rural Internet service (which is a 
money-loser) on to the city folks instead of just asking the city folks if you 
want to pay taxes to fund rural Internet expansion, and furthermore it's just 
another example of the increased voting power of the rural folk being able to 
pull the pants down once more on the city dwellers but we won't talk about 
that, LOL

The ISP market is much like the soft drink market.  Market forces serve to keep 
Coke and Pepsi selling 90% of the sugar water that people drink.

Ted

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IMHO, there needs to be much more internet service competition. Ideally not 
between 2 giant corporations/monopolies. 


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