UPS Lead Acid gel cells are not what they used to be.  A decade ago I could get 
a 12v 7ah gel call from Panasonic that would sit in a box
For 6 months, not significantly sulfate, then work in a UPS for 5 years.

Today everything on the market is complete crap.  Even the AGM versions are 
hardly better.  Race to the bottom destroyed the lead acid battery market.

But in truth the gel cell technology is not really suitable for modern UPSes 
which because of consumer ignorance have become very badly designed.

20 years ago a computer UPS would be rated at 450VA, and come with 2 12V 12ah 
batteries and would put out power for 30 minutes then gracefully shut the PC 
down and the batteries would not be trashed.

Today the UPS is rated at 1500VA and people plug it into a branch circuit that 
already has half the house on it, and comes with 2 little pissy 12v 8ah 
batteries.  Then it lasts 5 minutes then rolls over and dies leaving the 
batteries sucked dry.  So then the batteries would sit around dead as doornails 
for a day, sulfating to shit, then when utility power came back and the battery 
recharged you would have 30% of the battery capacity permanently destroyed.

UPSes today do high current discharges which are much better suited to wet cell 
lead acid batteries.  So combine crap quality batteries with moron configuring 
and overloading the discharge of the batteries and you get a year out of them.

Alarm systems are low-current drain devices specifically because they assume 
they will be battery powered when they are most needed.  Totally different than 
uPSes.   You should at the least have bought High Current variants of your 
batteries but I'll bet lunch you were not sold those.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dick Steffens
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PLUG] Resolved: Battery Backup Question

On 9/27/23 16:13, Dick Steffens wrote:
> On 9/27/23 16:10, Bill Barry wrote:
>> Yes, I would definitely take it out of the circuit and test it. There 
>> is little else that can go wrong with a UPS. Especially since all the 
>> warning signals are working.
>>
>> BIll
>
> Probably tomorrow. Thanks for confirming the idea.
>

The old battery was down to 11.something V at the battery place, and their 
tester said it had an internal resistance in the 40s. The new battery has an 
internal resistance of 100 something.

With the new battery, the UPS starts up normally.

I have the feeling that the old battery wasn't that old, but I haven't found 
the receipt, so it could be over a year. The guy said they use the same battery 
in their alarm system, and it's expected to last 5 years. 
I'm going to tape a note to the UPS with today's date and the expectation of 5 
years.

I'm also going to set it up for my other office computer, since I moved its UPS 
to the main one. While I'm at it, I'll use my Kill A Watt to see what each 
device I plug into it is drawing. I'll start a log of these things for future 
reference.

Thanks to all who provided advice.

--
Regards,

Dick Steffens

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