In a pair of landmark decisions, the Supreme Court struck down the 1996 law blocking federal recognition of gay marriage, and it allowed gay marriage to resume in California by declining to decide a separate case.
The court invalidated the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal benefits to gay couples who are legally married in their states, including Social Security survivor benefits, immigration rights and family leave. Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing for the majority in a 5-4 decision <http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/12pdf/12-307_g2bh.pdf>, said that the act wrote inequality into federal law and violated the Fifth Amendment’s protection of equal liberty. “DOMA’s principal effect is to identify a subset of state-sanctioned marriages and make them unequal,” he wrote. On Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:59:10 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: > > Where? In what Code or law? There are currently a majority of States > that do not acknowledge homosexuals as a protected class, and I am unaware > of any federal law that would change that..... > > > > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 10:32 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> in a situation like discrimination or potential civil litigation where a >> federal code is non-specific. >> --- >> the feds and the USSC have been pretty specific about discrimination >> against lgbt's. >> >> >> On Thursday, August 28, 2014 8:37:40 AM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >>> That is not necessarily correct. In situations like this, State Law is >>> what governs the Federal rulings, especially in a situation like >>> discrimination or potential civil litigation where a federal code is >>> non-specific. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 9:33 AM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I would think that State law would govern. >>>> --- >>>> nope ... the feds rule and states drool. >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, August 27, 2014 7:11:38 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You are correct Michael, with the exception of the States that have >>>>> not added "Gender" or "homosexual" discrimination....I am not sure how >>>>> the >>>>> federal code applies to these specific "New Classes" of folks, but I >>>>> would think that State law would govern. I also think that there could >>>>> in >>>>> fact be an argument made about ex post facto laws, even in a civil >>>>> construction of such..... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 7:55 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> This is ILLEGAL (though not constitutionally so) thanks to much >>>>>> hailed (unconstitutional) CRA of '64 and its whole cloth invention ... >>>>>> public accommodation. >>>>>> >>>>>> Furthermore ... it is clearly involuntary servitude (supposedly ended >>>>>> with Amendment XIII). >>>>>> >>>>>> Regard$, >>>>>> --MJ >>>>>> >>>>>> "A right is the sanction of independent action. A right is that which >>>>>> can be exercised without anyone's permission. If you exist only because >>>>>> society permits you to exist, you have no right to your own life. A >>>>>> permission can be revoked at any time. If, before undertaking some >>>>>> action, >>>>>> you must obtain the permission of society -- you are not free, whether >>>>>> such >>>>>> permission is granted to you or not. Only a slave acts on permission. A >>>>>> permission is not a right. -- Alyssa Rosenbaum >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> At 07:42 PM 8/27/2014, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't see how refusing to perform or provide services in a very >>>>>> open market could even remotely be construed as "Persecution"..... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 1:06 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> they're free to practice their religion. >>>>>> they are not free to persecute lgbt or muslims. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 8:05:12 PM UTC-5, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>>>> What about these Christian's right to practice their religion >>>>>> freely without prosecution?  >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:49 PM, plainolamerican < >>>>>> [email protected] <http://??>> wrote: >>>>>> more proof that only religious myth believers persecute gays. >>>>>> >>>>>> they were also ordered by the court to put up an anti-discrimination >>>>>> sign on their property. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, August 26, 2014 4:08:57 PM UTC-5, Travis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Eowyn posted: "The Gaystapo strikes again. A Christian couple who >>>>>> own a farm in upstate New York are being fined $10,000 for declined a >>>>>> lesbian couple’s request to hold a wedding ceremony on their property. >>>>>> The owners are also ordered to to pay $1,500 to each lesbian" >>>>>> Respond to this post by replying above this line >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *New post on Fellowship of the Minds* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> * Christian farm owners fined $13,000 for declining to host lesbian >>>>>> wedding >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/08/26/christian-farm-owners-fined-13000-for-declining-to-host-lesbian-wedding/>* >>>>>> >>>>>> by Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/author/eowyn2/> >>>>>> >>>>>> The Gaystapo strikes again. >>>>>> >>>>>> A Christian couple who own a farm in upstate New York are being fined >>>>>> $10,000 for declined a lesbian couple’s request to hold a wedding >>>>>> ceremony on their property. The owners are also ordered to to pay $1,500 >>>>>> to >>>>>> each lesbian. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Washington Pos >>>>>> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/farm-owners-fined-for-saying-no-to-lesbian-wedding/2014/08/19/1cfe5ca2-27dd-11e4-8b10-7db129976abb_story.html>t >>>>>> >>>>>> reports, Aug. 19, 2014, that Cynthia and Robert Gifford, who own >>>>>> Liberty >>>>>> Ridge Farm near Albany, rent their facilities for birthday parties and >>>>>> about a dozen weddings each year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cynthia & Robert Gifford >>>>>> >>>>>> When Jennifer McCarthy and Melisa Erwin, a lesbian couple from >>>>>> Newark, N.J., requested to use the facility for their 2012 wedding, >>>>>> Cynthia >>>>>> Gifford offered the farm for a reception, but not for the wedding >>>>>> ceremony. >>>>>> Weddings typically are conducted on the first floor of the Giffords’ >>>>>> home >>>>>> or in an adjacent field. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jennifer McCarthy (l), Melisa Erwin (r) >>>>>> >>>>>> James Trainor, the Giffords' lawyer, said the farm owners attend a >>>>>> community church and cite their religious belief of marriage between a >>>>>> man >>>>>> and woman for declining to hold a same-sex wedding on their property. >>>>>> “Liberty Ridge Farm has employed gay people and has conducted events >>>>>> for >>>>>> same-sex couples,†Trainor said. “The Giffords’ objection was to >>>>>> hosting and participating in the wedding ceremony itself and not to >>>>>> providing service in general to lesbians.†>>>>>> >>>>>> But administrative law judge Migdalia Pares of the Bronx rejected the >>>>>> Giffords’ argument that the farm, which is also their home, is not a >>>>>> place of public accommodation and is therefore not subject to the >>>>>> anti-discrimination provisions of New York’s Human Rights Law. Pares >>>>>> ruled that although the Giffords reside at Gifford Barn, Liberty Ridge >>>>>> qualifies as a public accommodation because it regularly collects fees >>>>>> for >>>>>> space, facilities, services and meals, so it cannot be considered >>>>>> “distinctly private.†>>>>>> >>>>>> The Giffords must pay $13,000 in fines and restitution. Their lawyer >>>>>> says they are considering whether to appeal or pursue further legal >>>>>> action. >>>>>> >>>>>> The now-married lesbians filed a complaint with New York’s Division >>>>>> of Human Rights, and the administrative law judge said that Liberty >>>>>> Ridge >>>>>> “unlawfully discriminated against complainants solely on the basis of >>>>>> their sexual orientation.†>>>>>> >>>>>> Earlier this year, several states, including Kansas and Arizona, >>>>>> considered legislation that would allow people who object to same-sex >>>>>> marriage to cite their religious beliefs as a defense if faced with a >>>>>> discrimination lawsuit. Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed the bill in her >>>>>> state; the Kansas bill died in the state Senate. >>>>>> >>>>>> See also: Christian bridal shop under fire after refusing to help >>>>>> lesbian couple find dresses >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/08/11/christian-bridal-shop-under-fire-after-refusing-to-help-lesbian-couple-find-dresses/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Colorado Judge compels baker to sell wedding cake to homosexuals >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2013/12/08/colorado-judge-compels-baker-to-sell-wedding-cake-to-homosexuals/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gaystapo strikes again: Chase Bank asks employees to declare loyalty to >>>>>> LGBT >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/07/02/gaystapo-strikes-again-chase-bank-asks-employees-to-declare-loyalty-to-lgbt/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Resigns After Backlash Over Support For Prop 8 >>>>>> Same-Sex Marriage Ban >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/04/04/mozilla-ceo-brendan-eich-resigns-after-backlash-over-support-for-prop-8-same-sex-marriage-ban/> >>>>>> >>>>>> World Health Organization: HIV ‘exploding’ among homosexual men >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/07/14/world-health-organization-hiv-exploding-among-homosexual-men/> >>>>>> >>>>>> ~Eowyn >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Eowyn <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/author/eowyn2/> | August >>>>>> 26, 2014 at 1:17 pm | Tags: Cynthia Gifford >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?tag=cynthia-gifford>, Jennifer >>>>>> McCarthy <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?tag=jennifer-mccarthy>, >>>>>> Liberty >>>>>> Ridge Farm <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?tag=liberty-ridge-farm>, >>>>>> Melisa Erwin <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?tag=melisa-erwin>, >>>>>> Migdalia >>>>>> Pares <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?tag=migdalia-pares>, Robert >>>>>> Gifford <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?tag=robert-gifford> | >>>>>> Categories: Christians/Christianity >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?cat=111409284>, Culture War >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?cat=20812>, Gays >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?cat=212736045>, >>>>>> Liberals/Democrats/Left >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?cat=115894710>, Obama's America >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?cat=12285619>, persecution of >>>>>> Christians <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/?cat=212735197> | URL: >>>>>> http://wp.me/pKuKY-rFT >>>>>> >>>>>> Comment >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/08/26/christian-farm-owners-fined-13000-for-declining-to-host-lesbian-wedding/#respond> >>>>>> >>>>>>    See all comments >>>>>> <http://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2014/08/26/christian-farm-owners-fined-13000-for-declining-to-host-lesbian-wedding/#comments> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe >>>>>> <https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=7f89380f46003915c34c2cdd2b126a38&email=bovinescatologists%40gmail.com&b=sC-%7CN0fGB7%2BY%3FYRF%5DjyyouXJRbZFHuFIWzgd3QdgXJXjOSLIcQ> >>>>>> >>>>>> to no longer receive posts from Fellowship of the Minds. >>>>>> Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions >>>>>> <https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=7f89380f46003915c34c2cdd2b126a38&email=bovinescatologists%40gmail.com> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Trouble clicking? 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