No Brine, you are talking about a few exceptions and I assume want to see all Churches punished because of a hand full of televangelists and the hand full of "Mega-Churches" in this Nation. There just aren't that many! (Literally, a hand full!)
Most Churches are as I describe, small congregations which depend solely on their membership for literal survival, and they have no paid staff! On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: > My Mom worked for the Temple technically, they are run like a business!!! > > You keep sidestepping those multimillion dollar preachers, that is a > business!!! I imagine they have a staff that gets paid to put on their > fancy shows!!! > > My Sister belongs to a Christian church in Jupiter that is a multimedia > extravaganza ... they were looking for a graphic artist recently and my > Sister wanted me to apply and move down there to Florida ... other that the > actual job part you were required to promote the church and it's teachings > ... aside from my dislike for heat and Florida, that would be a deal > breaker ... I keep my work and spirituality separate!!! > > Perhaps you belong to a small little charitable church that has nobody > getting paid but the preacher .. but i think you may be seeing things > through different colored lenses than I do!!! > > > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:55 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Was your Mom working for the Rabbi, or was she working for the Synagogue? >> >> >> As I started out in this thread saying, the Catholic Church is a bit >> different than most other Churches and denominations. Most Churches >> struggle to make ends meet, and are dependent solely for member >> contributions. >> >> Very few Churches have paid staff. It's rare Brine, whether you know >> some Jewish Rabbi who has a side business or not. Again, the Catholics >> have a machine, and a lot of wealth, especially as compared to any other >> Church or denomination, but to categorize "Churches" as businesses, is >> clearly misplaced. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Let's see. the church I went to as a youth had an office staff and >>> secretary to the Monsignor. There were also people who cleaned the >>> buildings and kept the grounds, I would assume they we paid for that!!! My >>> Mom worked as a secretary for a Rabbi for many years, I do believe she was >>> a paid employee!!! >>> >>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> "Paid Employees"? I think not....The minister is usually paid, but >>>> most Churches do not have "paid employees"..... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> They collect money and have paid employees, how is that NOT a >>>>> business??? >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This is where your thinking is skewed....A Church is not a business! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmmm ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/category/celeb/televangelists/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I still think if I have to pay taxes, everybody and every business >>>>>>> (yes, religion is a business in my mind) should have to pay taxes!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, your experience with Pastors and Ministers making big bucks >>>>>>>> is much different than my experiences! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With the exception of the Catholic Church, I am not aware of many >>>>>>>> Churches owning "Prime Real Estate", and if they do, for instance in >>>>>>>> downtown areas, it is because they have occupied those properties for >>>>>>>> hundreds of years. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the one hand, you clamor for the separation of Church and State, >>>>>>>> which keeping Churches tax exempt does in fact benefit that separation, >>>>>>>> because it keeps the government out of Church finances. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Moreover, most denominations provide crucial social service to >>>>>>>> their respective communities, which is invaluable and far outweighs any >>>>>>>> taxes collected upon their properties. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Brian Bednarek <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Churches own prime real estate and based on the cars and clothes I >>>>>>>>> see on many Pastors, there is a lot of profit in the church >>>>>>>>> business!!! Why >>>>>>>>> should a religious institution NOT pay taxes??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Keith In Tampa < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why is it that you think Churches should be taxed Brine? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With regard to the NFL, it is true that the organization in and >>>>>>>>>> of itself is not taxed...Believe it or not, the NFL is a "non-profit" >>>>>>>>>> entity....Having said that, all of the 32 teams are in fact taxed, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> generate a huge amount of revenue for their respective cities. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Are all sports teams tax exempt or just their so called >>>>>>>>>>> governing bodies? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In a message dated 11/16/2014 10:24:45 A.M. Pacific Standard >>>>>>>>>>> Time, [email protected] writes: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah what happened to separation of Church and State: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://blogs.christianpost.com/pastor/help-in-applying-for-church-grants-2196/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.sba.gov/community/discussion-boards/grants-and-funding-churches >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grantsecrets.com/church-grants/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Personally, I don't think religions should be tax exempt!!! The >>>>>>>>>>> NFL as well!!! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Hot4azintop via PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> What happened to the concept of "separation of church and >>>>>>>>>>>> state" that libs all hot for......or is Islam not a religion? 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