Two things happened to public schools that sent them into a downward spiral. One was the entry of educational psychologists and their theories to the college programs for teachers. This was like in the 1950's. Benjamin Bloom was one of those leading this https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED457185
They put all this focus on 'how' to teach, not the content. Notice all the snowflake college students of late? We need to go back and see whose theories were programed into those kids. I may do that one day if bored. I know Columbia University has had a major role in educational theories enacted. They also got all the marxists who were run out of Europe back in the '30's and 40's. Second thing that happened to public school was the federal government - go back to the 1950's for its birth, then watch the monster grow. There is actually lots of money in education if you know the secrets on how to get it. That is, get the federal government to mandate your theories. The Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) was created on *April 11, 1953*, when Reorganization Plan No. 1 of*1953* became effective. HEW thus became the first new Cabinet-level department since the Department of Labor was created in 1913. The *United States Department of Education* (*ED* or *DoED*), also referred to as *the ED* for (the) Education Department, is a Cabinet <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cabinet>-level department of the United States government <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_government_of_the_United_States>. Recreated by the Department of Education Organization Act <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Education_Organization_Act> (Public Law 96-88) and signed into law by President Jimmy Carter <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carter> on October 17, 1979, it began operating on May 4, 1980.[3] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Education#cite_note-3> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 1:39:18 PM UTC-6, gtheist957 wrote: > > A voucher can't provide enough funding unless you eliminate public > schools. School choice will benefit a few students. We had a good public > education system until it got fixed. > > On Feb 3, 2017 1:30 PM, "btdt100" <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > >> No everyone would not run to the 1 or 2 best schools. I may have a son >> who plays football. He might have to take a junior varsity position at one >> school while the another offers him a positon on varsity. I might have a >> son who has no interests in sports at all so that would not be not be a >> factor for me in considering a school. In his case, I may feel he would do >> best in a small school environment. The one size can fit all is not >> reality. A factor I looked at when choosing a private school was >> cirriculum - that is the biggest difference in private schools and public >> and the main reason that private schools score higher on nationalized tests >> than public schools. >> >> There are all kinds of ways that schools can limit enrollment to their >> capacity - quotas, testing, lotteries, first come first served, etc. >> >> A number of things change. One is parental empowerment. No one knows >> better what their child needs than a parent. Bureacrats know dog shit. >> Another major change is competition is restored. If a school is failing, >> rather than the government continuing to prop them up, they could simply be >> closed. Private schools with better achievement and thus demand could >> expand. >> >> On Friday, February 3, 2017 at 8:44:28 AM UTC-6, Pittalum wrote: >>> >>> I don't think you fellows have really thought this thing through - or if >>> you have, you aren't telling us the whole story. >>> >>> Why wouldn't, for example, every parent in the city of Pittsburgh want >>> their kids to go to Mt. Lebanon or Upper St. Clair High School - pretty >>> much overwhelming those school districts' ability to accommodate them. Who >>> will pick and choose what kids get in and which ones don't? And what do you >>> do with those that don't? >>> >>> Right now, there are charter schools popping up all over the place - so >>> that's already happening. >>> >>> Can someone give a little more detail on how you expect this thing to >>> work - or what it is that you expect to change from current conditions? >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 6:27:34 PM UTC-5, Kamakazee wrote: >>>> >>>> 95% would welcome them, as long as they are involved in the school and >>>> its activities. And the voucher-parents would see stereotypical myths >>>> dissolve in front of their eyes. >>>> >>>> PS. I went to a private school from 8th-12th. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 4:06:30 PM UTC-6, Pittalum wrote: >>>> >>>>> How do you think the parents of kids currently in those private >>>>> schools would feel about a bunch of voucher clutching underprivilegeds >>>>> banging on the doors to get in... >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2017 at 2:40:21 PM UTC-5, btdt100 wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> It would end real fast by empowering parents to put their kids in >>>>>> private schools with a voucher system. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> * It's active and moderated. 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