Hey BDT! We're on the same page here; and I probably need to bone up on the "Agricultural/Migrant-Worker" laws; but at one time, these "Visas/Permits" were fairly easy to obtain; and they were obtained seasonally for (I believe) 18 or 24 months. I know that Florida had a number of migrant workers, (Still do!) especially in the Ruskin; (*e.g*.; south of Tampa) and Miami/Dade County tomato fields, and the Immockalee Sugar Cane fields; and these crops are worked primarily by migrant workers, again seasonally.
As a side note, Florida produces about 35% of the tomatoes grown nationally for consumption! We're also the leading citrus producing State and cattle producing State; swapping back and forth between Texas every other year or so....Not a lot of folks realize how agricultural we are! On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:57 PM, btdt100 <[email protected]> wrote: > We are talking about picking crops - something that is labor intensive for > a short period of time when crops needs harvesting. A temporary short term > job once or twice a year is really is not a solution for unemployment or > entitlement issues. Forcing a 'fair' wage probably would not increase the > labor supply for that market and would increase the cost of food across the > board. Mexican migrant workers have always come up here, done the work and > then gone back to work their own farms as their growing season is different > than ours. At least they did so until NAFTA when we were able to put their > corn growers out of business. That is when many of those workers just > started staying here. Other Mexican farmers converted to growing poppies > and we now also have that problem. > > As to food stamps, that program requires a person to be working. I think > elderly people with low income can get them and disabled people - that is, > people who cannot work. Unemployeed can get them for like 3 months in my > state but that is it. Welfare is limited and already directed at getting > people employed. Most entitlements actually are subsidies to people who > are working - Earned Income Credit - you must have income to get it. Child > care tax credit - again requires income. So does subsidized housing. > Truth of the matter is that most entitlements actually subsidize employers. > > > > > > On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 11:04:37 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> I disagree BDT, and I semi-agree with Mags here. >> >> There are in fact migrant agricultural laws that allow for migrant >> workers; and it is true that a part and parcel of the illegal immigrant >> problem is that employers have been willing to undercut Americans by hiring >> cheaper labor. Couple this with government handouts and welfare; where >> it's more profitable to lay one's fat ass up and collect stipends from the >> government rather than to get their butts up and go to work: >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:51 AM, btdt100 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ever thought the laws need revising? Like maybe to cover migrant farm >>> workers who travel back and forth between Mexico and US? They have always >>> done it but never been properly addressed. >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:48:32 AM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote: >>>> >>>> And that's why I say enforce the laws that exist, they're out there, >>>> despite Obama's best attempts. >>>> >>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-6, brine wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That's why I have always said punish the people who hire them!!! 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