I too heard the report; and yes, citrus is one of our biggest crops. Again, I don't think it's that difficult to get these migrant visas, but it's not something that I've kept up with....When I get as moment, I will look into it.
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:34 PM, btdt100 <[email protected]> wrote: > Isn't your biggest crop oranges? I think migrant workers get processed > with what they call 'green cards', but it has always been a very > inefficient system so many come in illegally. There was a news report the > last few days that with Trump's crack own on illegals, migrant workers are > not coming in, and so growers in Florida are having trouble hiring and they > were predicting crops rotting on the vine. > > > > > On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 2:24:53 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >> >> >> Hey BDT! >> >> We're on the same page here; and I probably need to bone up on the >> "Agricultural/Migrant-Worker" laws; but at one time, these "Visas/Permits" >> were fairly easy to obtain; and they were obtained seasonally for (I >> believe) 18 or 24 months. I know that Florida had a number of migrant >> workers, (Still do!) especially in the Ruskin; (*e.g*.; south of Tampa) >> and Miami/Dade County tomato fields, and the Immockalee Sugar Cane fields; >> and these crops are worked primarily by migrant workers, again seasonally. >> >> >> As a side note, Florida produces about 35% of the tomatoes grown >> nationally for consumption! We're also the leading citrus producing State >> and cattle producing State; swapping back and forth between Texas every >> other year or so....Not a lot of folks realize how agricultural we are! >> >> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:57 PM, btdt100 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We are talking about picking crops - something that is labor intensive >>> for a short period of time when crops needs harvesting. A temporary short >>> term job once or twice a year is really is not a solution for unemployment >>> or entitlement issues. Forcing a 'fair' wage probably would not increase >>> the labor supply for that market and would increase the cost of food across >>> the board. Mexican migrant workers have always come up here, done the work >>> and then gone back to work their own farms as their growing season is >>> different than ours. At least they did so until NAFTA when we were able to >>> put their corn growers out of business. That is when many of those workers >>> just started staying here. Other Mexican farmers converted to growing >>> poppies and we now also have that problem. >>> >>> As to food stamps, that program requires a person to be working. I >>> think elderly people with low income can get them and disabled people - >>> that is, people who cannot work. Unemployeed can get them for like 3 >>> months in my state but that is it. Welfare is limited and already directed >>> at getting people employed. Most entitlements actually are subsidies to >>> people who are working - Earned Income Credit - you must have income to get >>> it. Child care tax credit - again requires income. So does subsidized >>> housing. Truth of the matter is that most entitlements actually subsidize >>> employers. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 11:04:37 AM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: >>>> >>>> I disagree BDT, and I semi-agree with Mags here. >>>> >>>> There are in fact migrant agricultural laws that allow for migrant >>>> workers; and it is true that a part and parcel of the illegal immigrant >>>> problem is that employers have been willing to undercut Americans by hiring >>>> cheaper labor. Couple this with government handouts and welfare; where >>>> it's more profitable to lay one's fat ass up and collect stipends from the >>>> government rather than to get their butts up and go to work: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:51 AM, btdt100 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ever thought the laws need revising? Like maybe to cover migrant farm >>>>> workers who travel back and forth between Mexico and US? They have always >>>>> done it but never been properly addressed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:48:32 AM UTC-6, Kamakazee wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> And that's why I say enforce the laws that exist, they're out there, >>>>>> despite Obama's best attempts. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-6, brine wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's why I have always said punish the people who hire them!!! >>>>>>> Make it so they can't afford to pay off-the-books to legals or >>>>>>> illegals!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:21 AM, ImStillMags Mags < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0LLeR1IaP-c/WK8L7voWAEI/AAAAAAAARIk/Po9x3xbrXFwHJn87sRzYoXvqHKGMI4N-ACLcB/s1600/14045872_626656584174710_4828273169434009540_n.jpg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group >>>>>>>> /PoliticalForum >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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