(<Grin>! Good to see ya Michael!)
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:38 AM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Been busy, but this remains in the to respond ........ > > > :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 02:21 PM 4/11/2017, you wrote: > > Okay, again, I choose to play! > > Let's utilize (at least a portion) of your hypothesis, (obviously you > haven't thought this out real well, because our Forefathers had no > comparison to an Air Force, Tomahawk Missiles, or "B0mbs" as you refer to > it) but in general, the Forefathers did have the ability to foresee > scenarios that the Commander In Chief may see, be forced to engage in or > experience. > > Under your theory; the President would have to go before Congress and > obtain approval from the majority of the 535 Members before he was able to > direct any military action; bar none.   > > Under your theory, each and every "Event" could be construed as a war; > meaning that during World War II, the only action that President Roosevelt > would have been authorized to engage in were the Japanese in and around the > Hawaiian islands....Nowhere else, to include Guam, the Philippines, the > Islands of Japan; nor Europe,  Africa or anywhere else where hostilities > were taking place.  > > Obviously this is what you (Rand Paul,  Tulsi Gabert and others who are > not boned up on Constitutional Law) are calling for! > > What if Iran's Hezbollah attacks the mainland of the United States, and we > have the ability to attack this Hezbollah force before the leave the > mainland of the United States. Does the President still seek out a > declaration of war from the Congress? Back seventy-seven years ago, it > only took about 26 hours....I doubt very seriously if the 115th Congress > could act as hastily today. > > What about the potential of a nuclear attack by Crisco over in > Pyongyang? Let's assume that we learn of the potential of a nuclear > attack; but have the ability to prevent such an attack by a pre-emptive > strike. Does a President have to go to the 535 Members in order to be > blessed with protecting our National Security?  > > The concept for which you and others attempt to frame is ludicrous and has > NEVER been the intent of our Forefathers, nor is it mandated by the > Congress. As stated:  > > To "Declare War" has a goal;  an objective; and most importantly a > conclusion and finite ending; (no matter the victor!) > > That was not the case last week when Trump ordered the launch of missiles > against a very limited target. > > Your "Fallacy" argument is stale. It reminds me of those Secular > Progressives when defeated and not capable of framing an intelligent > answer, reverting to the name calling of > "Racist/Homophobe/Islamophobe/Bigot".....It's > unbecoming. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:47 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > The expected and anticipated fallacy spew ... your signature move when all > else has failed. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > If you don't like someone, the way he holds his spoon makes you furious; > if you like him, he can turn his plate over into your lap and you won't > mind. -- Irving Becker > > > > At 01:34 PM 4/11/2017, you wrote: > > And as again is typical, you've refuted nothing. > > As a side note, (this isn't something new or novel;  I realized this > years ago during Roberts' ruling on the AFA);  you must possess common > sense. It's requisite in life, and most especially when > "Patriots/Militia/Minute-Men/Tax-Protestors" such as yourself start > attempting to define and describe the Constitution; the Federalist Papers > or the Anti-Federalist Papers. > > You should work on that Michael.... > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Keith In Tampa <[email protected] > > wrote: With regard to the militias, yes. > > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 1:27 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > Except you PLUCKED what you wanted (which still does not provide the > power/authority you claim). > The ENTIRE sentence is: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the > Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several > States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; > Note the QUALIFIER "when called into actual service". The CONGRESS does > this. > The AIIS2C1 nonsense was already refuted. > Any other guesses? > Regard$, --MJ > "The military state is the final form to which every planned economy tends > rapidly." ~ Isabel Paterson > > > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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