I agree Gaar,

The Honorable Barclay R. Surrick, a Clinton Appointee was the Judge
who ruled upon the initial Complaint in the Eastern District of
Pennsylvania.  Although Judge Surrick based his determination in part
on a previous Supreme Court ruling, the issue at hand is not exactly
on point, and although I understand the Court's rationale, I strongly
disagree with it.  This is the same revisionist, "legislate from the
bench/Living Constitution" crap that our Nation is frought with, and
exactly the kinds of jurists of the Ginsberg mold that President elect
Obama intends to stack the Supremes with....





On Nov 11, 6:24 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it isn't taken care of BEFORE the Innauguration, then I believe
> EVERY AMERICAN Citizen will in Fact have standing on this matter
> AFTERWARD...
>
> On Nov 11, 3:19 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It gets back to another post, and another issue:
>
> > "If now is not the time to point fingers, when is?"
>
> > It could be argued, that the mandate President elect Obama received is
> > for naught, because the mainstream media refused to cover this story,
> > and the citizens of the United States were unaware that Senator Obama
> > is not an American.....
>
> > I have talked to numerous individuals who have never even heard about
> > this, and don't have a clue about this matter.  Some  have heard
> > little sound bites on CNN and even FOX, (Major Garrett on FOX  by
> > example I have specifically heard myself) saying something to the
> > effect of, "The Governor of Hawaii has now reiterated that there is in
> > fact a birth certificate under seal, so Senator Obama does in fact
> > have a birth certificate from the United States".
>
> > This statement, (and that news release that I am referencing which was
> > I believe the weekend before the election) just establishes that not
> > only was Senator Obama's campaign, and the DNC lying, but it also
> > proved that NBC, CNN and FactCheck.org were in the tank for Senator
> > Obama and lied about the fraudulently labeled birth certificate that
> > was posted on Senator Obama's web site.
>
> > Why is it that only conservatives are seeing this fraud?   It only
> > seems rational to me, that every American should be outraged about the
> > lies already revealed in this scandal, yet no one seems to be the
> > least bit bothered by the Obama campaign's, and the DNC's fraudulent
> > acts.
>
> > On Nov 11, 5:50 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Interesting situation.
>
> > > On Nov 8, 11:50 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > I have no other info.
> > > > From: *Travis*
> > > > Date: Sat, Nov 8, 2008
> > > > Subject: SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH CERTIFICATE 
> > > > DECEMBER 1
>
> > > >http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/scotus-souter...
>
> > > >  Friday, November 07, 2008 SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH
> > > > CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1
>
> > > > This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the vault copy by
> > > > December 1, 2008*. I believe the messiah will defy the Justices.*
>
> > > > Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that pandora's box?  
> > > > Imagine
> > > > if there is something on that birth certificate that  disqualifies Obama
> > > > from the office of the President.  What are you going to do? Start a 
> > > > civil
> > > > war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce the rule of 
> > > > law.
> > > > This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows it too.
>
> > > > Here is the fraud report first reported at
> > > > Atlas.<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusi...>
>
> > > > The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth
> > > > Certificate<http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-...>organicpeas
>
> > > >  If The Supreme Court Decides…?
>
> > > > At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk informed 
> > > > Philip J.
> > > > Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that his petition 
> > > > for
> > > > an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, but the 
> > > > Clerk
> > > > also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of Certiorari (which
> > > > requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. *At that 
> > > > time, Mr.
> > > > Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth certificate, after 
> > > > which
> > > > Mr. Berg will respond. *
>
> > > > *If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the skepticism of the
> > > > Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will have to decide
> > > > what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his natural-born
> > > > citizenship. *
>
> > > > "I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the election if 
> > > > Obama
> > > > refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. Kraft, an
> > > > attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without abandoning all
> > > > credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most liberal
> > > > justices, however loathe they may to do this, still consider themselves
> > > > guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of its power - 
> > > > even
> > > > over presidents, even over presidents-elect."
>
> > > > Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College meets to casts 
> > > > its
> > > > votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an illegal alien and
> > > > therefore ineligible to become President of the United States, the 
> > > > Electors
> > > > will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution.
>
> > > >  Posted by Pamela Geller on Friday, November 07, 2008 at 07:12 PM in 
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