How does that change anything? He was Adopted by an Indonesian, when they had no provision for dual Citizenship.
He is an Indonesian Citizen now, no matter who his real Father is/was. On Nov 11, 5:29 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know that I would go so far as to call this a constitutional > crisis, but it is clear to me, that if the allegations are true, and > I believe them to be, I think the evidence is overwhelming after > looking at it, that Senator Obama is not constitutionally qualified to > be President, and every American, once they learn of this fact, should > be outraged that the media didn't cover it, that Judge Surrick didn't > immediately put a stop to this campaign back three months ago, and let > the chips fall where they may. > > Of course, there is the theory, and this could very well be true, that > Franklin Davis was, "Da Baby Daddy", and that might in fact be the > "out" if the Supremes do what they are required to do..... > > On Nov 11, 8:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > We have in FACT an Illegal Alien as our President-Elect... > > > Talk about Constitutional Crisis. > > > On Nov 11, 5:19 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Obama's problem is this... > > > > It has ALREADY been SHOWN that even if he was in FACT Born in the > > > U.S., with what has happened throughout his Life makes him an > > > Indonesian Citizen, and not a U.S. Citizen, and he never bothered to > > > correct that FACT. > > > > So the only way he can keep from having that come to light in a Court > > > of Law is to have such a Case dismissed outright, since the merits > > > would in FACT SHOW that he is not Eligible, no matter where he was > > > Born. > > > > On Nov 11, 4:41 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Like I said... > > > > > Constitutional Crisis. > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:40 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > And then what do you think it will do to this Country to have to > > > > > REMOVE him from Office, because he isn't even a Citizen of the United > > > > > States? > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:13 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I agree Gaar, > > > > > > > The Honorable Barclay R. Surrick, a Clinton Appointee was the Judge > > > > > > who ruled upon the initial Complaint in the Eastern District of > > > > > > Pennsylvania. Although Judge Surrick based his determination in > > > > > > part > > > > > > on a previous Supreme Court ruling, the issue at hand is not exactly > > > > > > on point, and although I understand the Court's rationale, I > > > > > > strongly > > > > > > disagree with it. This is the same revisionist, "legislate from the > > > > > > bench/Living Constitution" crap that our Nation is frought with, and > > > > > > exactly the kinds of jurists of the Ginsberg mold that President > > > > > > elect > > > > > > Obama intends to stack the Supremes with.... > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 6:24 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > If it isn't taken care of BEFORE the Innauguration, then I believe > > > > > > > EVERY AMERICAN Citizen will in Fact have standing on this matter > > > > > > > AFTERWARD... > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 3:19 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It gets back to another post, and another issue: > > > > > > > > > "If now is not the time to point fingers, when is?" > > > > > > > > > It could be argued, that the mandate President elect Obama > > > > > > > > received is > > > > > > > > for naught, because the mainstream media refused to cover this > > > > > > > > story, > > > > > > > > and the citizens of the United States were unaware that Senator > > > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > is not an American..... > > > > > > > > > I have talked to numerous individuals who have never even heard > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > this, and don't have a clue about this matter. Some have heard > > > > > > > > little sound bites on CNN and even FOX, (Major Garrett on FOX > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > example I have specifically heard myself) saying something to > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > effect of, "The Governor of Hawaii has now reiterated that > > > > > > > > there is in > > > > > > > > fact a birth certificate under seal, so Senator Obama does in > > > > > > > > fact > > > > > > > > have a birth certificate from the United States". > > > > > > > > > This statement, (and that news release that I am referencing > > > > > > > > which was > > > > > > > > I believe the weekend before the election) just establishes > > > > > > > > that not > > > > > > > > only was Senator Obama's campaign, and the DNC lying, but it > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > proved that NBC, CNN and FactCheck.org were in the tank for > > > > > > > > Senator > > > > > > > > Obama and lied about the fraudulently labeled birth certificate > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > was posted on Senator Obama's web site. > > > > > > > > > Why is it that only conservatives are seeing this fraud? It > > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > seems rational to me, that every American should be outraged > > > > > > > > about the > > > > > > > > lies already revealed in this scandal, yet no one seems to be > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > least bit bothered by the Obama campaign's, and the DNC's > > > > > > > > fraudulent > > > > > > > > acts. > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 5:50 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Interesting situation. > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 11:50 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I have no other info. > > > > > > > > > > From: *Travis* > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, Nov 8, 2008 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH > > > > > > > > > > CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 > > > > > > > > > > >http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/scotus-souter... > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, November 07, 2008 SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO > > > > > > > > > > PRODUCE BIRTH > > > > > > > > > > CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 > > > > > > > > > > > This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the > > > > > > > > > > vault copy by > > > > > > > > > > December 1, 2008*. I believe the messiah will defy the > > > > > > > > > > Justices.* > > > > > > > > > > > Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that > > > > > > > > > > pandora's box? Imagine > > > > > > > > > > if there is something on that birth certificate that > > > > > > > > > > disqualifies Obama > > > > > > > > > > from the office of the President. What are you going to > > > > > > > > > > do? Start a civil > > > > > > > > > > war? There will be blood in the streets you try to enforce > > > > > > > > > > the rule of law. > > > > > > > > > > This should have happened before the election. Obambi knows > > > > > > > > > > it too. > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the fraud report first reported at > > > > > > > > > > Atlas.<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusi...> > > > > > > > > > > > The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth > > > > > > > > > > Certificate<http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-...>organicpeas > > > > > > > > > > > If The Supreme Court Decides…? > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's Clerk > > > > > > > > > > informed Philip J. > > > > > > > > > > Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, that > > > > > > > > > > his petition for > > > > > > > > > > an injunction to stay the November 4th election was denied, > > > > > > > > > > but the Clerk > > > > > > > > > > also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of > > > > > > > > > > Certiorari (which > > > > > > > > > > requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December 1. > > > > > > > > > > *At that time, Mr. > > > > > > > > > > Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth > > > > > > > > > > certificate, after which > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Berg will respond. * > > > > > > > > > > > *If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the > > > > > > > > > > skepticism of the > > > > > > > > > > Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They will > > > > > > > > > > have to decide > > > > > > > > > > what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove his > > > > > > > > > > natural-born > > > > > > > > > > citizenship. * > > > > > > > > > > > "I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the > > > > > > > > > > election if Obama > > > > > > > > > > refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond S. > > > > > > > > > > Kraft, an > > > > > > > > > > attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without > > > > > > > > > > abandoning all > > > > > > > > > > credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the most > > > > > > > > > > liberal > > > > > > > > > > justices, however loathe they may to do this, still > > > > > > > > > > consider themselves > > > > > > > > > > guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very jealous of > > > > > > > > > > its power - even > > > > > > > > > > over presidents, even over presidents-elect." > > > > > > > > > > > Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral College > > > > > > > > > > meets to casts its > > > > > > > > > > votes. 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