Yep. Regardless of his Parentage, he was Adopted by an Indonesian during a time that Indonesia did not allow dual Citizenship.
On Nov 11, 6:04 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You might be correct, I am not boned up on immigration law, but if > both parents were natural citizens, I thought that would automatically > qualify him, but then we are right back at the point that you made, he > would have had to declare his citizenship when he reached the age of > majority, and if he never renounced his Indonesian citizenship, then > therein lies the problem..... > > On Nov 11, 8:58 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > How does that change anything? > > > He was Adopted by an Indonesian, when they had no provision for dual > > Citizenship. > > > He is an Indonesian Citizen now, no matter who his real Father is/was. > > > On Nov 11, 5:29 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I don't know > > that I would go so far as to call this a constitutional > > > crisis, but it is clear to me, that if the allegations are true, and > > > I believe them to be, I think the evidence is overwhelming after > > > looking at it, that Senator Obama is not constitutionally qualified to > > > be President, and every American, once they learn of this fact, should > > > be outraged that the media didn't cover it, that Judge Surrick didn't > > > immediately put a stop to this campaign back three months ago, and let > > > the chips fall where they may. > > > > Of course, there is the theory, and this could very well be true, that > > > Franklin Davis was, "Da Baby Daddy", and that might in fact be the > > > "out" if the Supremes do what they are required to do..... > > > > On Nov 11, 8:22 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > We have in FACT an Illegal Alien as our President-Elect... > > > > > Talk about Constitutional Crisis. > > > > > On Nov 11, 5:19 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Obama's problem is this... > > > > > > It has ALREADY been SHOWN that even if he was in FACT Born in the > > > > > U.S., with what has happened throughout his Life makes him an > > > > > Indonesian Citizen, and not a U.S. Citizen, and he never bothered to > > > > > correct that FACT. > > > > > > So the only way he can keep from having that come to light in a Court > > > > > of Law is to have such a Case dismissed outright, since the merits > > > > > would in FACT SHOW that he is not Eligible, no matter where he was > > > > > Born. > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:41 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Like I said... > > > > > > > Constitutional Crisis. > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:40 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > And then what do you think it will do to this Country to have to > > > > > > > REMOVE him from Office, because he isn't even a Citizen of the > > > > > > > United > > > > > > > States? > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 4:13 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I agree Gaar, > > > > > > > > > The Honorable Barclay R. Surrick, a Clinton Appointee was the > > > > > > > > Judge > > > > > > > > who ruled upon the initial Complaint in the Eastern District of > > > > > > > > Pennsylvania. Although Judge Surrick based his determination > > > > > > > > in part > > > > > > > > on a previous Supreme Court ruling, the issue at hand is not > > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > on point, and although I understand the Court's rationale, I > > > > > > > > strongly > > > > > > > > disagree with it. This is the same revisionist, "legislate > > > > > > > > from the > > > > > > > > bench/Living Constitution" crap that our Nation is frought > > > > > > > > with, and > > > > > > > > exactly the kinds of jurists of the Ginsberg mold that > > > > > > > > President elect > > > > > > > > Obama intends to stack the Supremes with.... > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 6:24 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > If it isn't taken care of BEFORE the Innauguration, then I > > > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > EVERY AMERICAN Citizen will in Fact have standing on this > > > > > > > > > matter > > > > > > > > > AFTERWARD... > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 3:19 pm, KeithInTampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It gets back to another post, and another issue: > > > > > > > > > > > "If now is not the time to point fingers, when is?" > > > > > > > > > > > It could be argued, that the mandate President elect Obama > > > > > > > > > > received is > > > > > > > > > > for naught, because the mainstream media refused to cover > > > > > > > > > > this story, > > > > > > > > > > and the citizens of the United States were unaware that > > > > > > > > > > Senator Obama > > > > > > > > > > is not an American..... > > > > > > > > > > > I have talked to numerous individuals who have never even > > > > > > > > > > heard about > > > > > > > > > > this, and don't have a clue about this matter. Some have > > > > > > > > > > heard > > > > > > > > > > little sound bites on CNN and even FOX, (Major Garrett on > > > > > > > > > > FOX by > > > > > > > > > > example I have specifically heard myself) saying something > > > > > > > > > > to the > > > > > > > > > > effect of, "The Governor of Hawaii has now reiterated that > > > > > > > > > > there is in > > > > > > > > > > fact a birth certificate under seal, so Senator Obama does > > > > > > > > > > in fact > > > > > > > > > > have a birth certificate from the United States". > > > > > > > > > > > This statement, (and that news release that I am > > > > > > > > > > referencing which was > > > > > > > > > > I believe the weekend before the election) just establishes > > > > > > > > > > that not > > > > > > > > > > only was Senator Obama's campaign, and the DNC lying, but > > > > > > > > > > it also > > > > > > > > > > proved that NBC, CNN and FactCheck.org were in the tank for > > > > > > > > > > Senator > > > > > > > > > > Obama and lied about the fraudulently labeled birth > > > > > > > > > > certificate that > > > > > > > > > > was posted on Senator Obama's web site. > > > > > > > > > > > Why is it that only conservatives are seeing this fraud? > > > > > > > > > > It only > > > > > > > > > > seems rational to me, that every American should be > > > > > > > > > > outraged about the > > > > > > > > > > lies already revealed in this scandal, yet no one seems to > > > > > > > > > > be the > > > > > > > > > > least bit bothered by the Obama campaign's, and the DNC's > > > > > > > > > > fraudulent > > > > > > > > > > acts. > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 11, 5:50 pm, OMS-II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 11:50 am, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no other info. > > > > > > > > > > > > From: *Travis* > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, Nov 8, 2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO PRODUCE BIRTH > > > > > > > > > > > > CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/scotus-souter... > > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, November 07, 2008 SCOTUS SOUTER TELLS OBAMA TO > > > > > > > > > > > > PRODUCE BIRTH > > > > > > > > > > > > CERTIFICATE DECEMBER 1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is interesting. Souter tells Obama to produce the > > > > > > > > > > > > vault copy by > > > > > > > > > > > > December 1, 2008*. I believe the messiah will defy the > > > > > > > > > > > > Justices.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > Who will force the issue? Who wants to open up that > > > > > > > > > > > > pandora's box? Imagine > > > > > > > > > > > > if there is something on that birth certificate that > > > > > > > > > > > > disqualifies Obama > > > > > > > > > > > > from the office of the President. What are you going > > > > > > > > > > > > to do? Start a civil > > > > > > > > > > > > war? There will be blood in the streets you try to > > > > > > > > > > > > enforce the rule of law. > > > > > > > > > > > > This should have happened before the election. Obambi > > > > > > > > > > > > knows it too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is the fraud report first reported at > > > > > > > > > > > > Atlas.<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusi...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Supreme Court and Obama's Birth > > > > > > > > > > > > Certificate<http://thevalleytruth.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/the-supreme-court-and-...>organicpeas > > > > > > > > > > > > > If The Supreme Court Decides…? > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, Supreme Court Justice David Souter's > > > > > > > > > > > > Clerk informed Philip J. > > > > > > > > > > > > Berg, the lawyer who brought the case against Obama, > > > > > > > > > > > > that his petition for > > > > > > > > > > > > an injunction to stay the November 4th election was > > > > > > > > > > > > denied, but the Clerk > > > > > > > > > > > > also required the defendants to respond to the Writ of > > > > > > > > > > > > Certiorari (which > > > > > > > > > > > > requires the concurrence of four Justices) by December > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. *At that time, Mr. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obama must present to the Court an authentic birth > > > > > > > > > > > > certificate, after which > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Berg will respond. * > > > > > > > > > > > > > *If Obama fails to do that, it is sure to inspire the > > > > > > > > > > > > skepticism of the > > > > > > > > > > > > Justices, who are unaccustomed to being defied. They > > > > > > > > > > > > will have to decide > > > > > > > > > > > > what to do about a president-elect who refuses to prove > > > > > > > > > > > > his natural-born > > > > > > > > > > > > citizenship. * > > > > > > > > > > > > > "I can see a unanimous Court (en banc) decertifying the > > > > > > > > > > > > election if Obama > > > > > > > > > > > > refuses to produce his birth certificate," says Raymond > > > > > > > > > > > > S. Kraft, an > > > > > > > > > > > > attorney and writer. "They cannot do otherwise without > > > > > > > > > > > > abandoning all > > > > > > > > > > > > credibility as guardians of the Constitution. Even the > > > > > > > > > > > > most liberal > > > > > > > > > > > > justices, however loathe they may to do this, still > > > > > > > > > > > > consider themselves > > > > > > > > > > > > guardians of the Constitution. The Court is very > > > > > > > > > > > > jealous of its power - even > > > > > > > > > > > > over presidents, even over presidents-elect." > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also remember that on December 13, the Electoral > > > > > > > > > > > > College meets to casts its > > > > > > > > > > > > votes. If it has been determined that Mr. Obama is an > > > > > > > > > > > > illegal alien and > > > > > > > > > > > > therefore ineligible to become President of the United > > > > > > > > > > > > States, the Electors > > > > > > > > > > > > will be duty-bound to honor the Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Posted by Pamela Geller on Friday, November 07, 2008 > > > > > > > > > > > > at 07:12 PM in Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth Certificate > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgery<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/obamas_birth_certifca...> > > > > > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > Permalink<http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/scotus-souter...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > __._,_.___ > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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