Yeah, and.... ???? So if someone from the zoo has coffee with someone from the museum, is that spending taxpayer money on religion? Or, if the zoo and the museum decide to offer tickets to their respective seasonal events in a combo package, is that spending taxpayer money on religion? Careful now... if you say it is, then you must also cite where/how the zoo is spending money on the museum. But I'll help you... the zoo was not spending any money doing this promotion. It was a bogus charge by paranoid anti-religious idiots.
On Dec 9, 10:16 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the Zoo is funded in part by tax payer money > > On Dec 9, 10:14 am, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Mike, how was taxpayer money being spent in this case? Both the museum > > and the zoo were offering to reduce ticket prices to their respective > > events if you buy them both together. That sounds like a win-win for > > the zoo, the museum and the taxpayers who wanted to see the events. > > > The sole basis for the complaint was the mere association of the zoo > > with the museum. How dare the zoo even recognize the existence of an > > organization that teaches creation. It had nothing to do with taxpayer > > money. It's pure paranoia. > > > On Dec 9, 3:25 am, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > tax payer money should not be spent on any religion period . > > > > On Dec 8, 5:07 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > But it's OK for taxpayer money to promote evolution? It's not like > > > > the theory of evolution is a proven fact either. Both evolution and > > > > creation are unproven theories yet you object to only one where > > > > taxpayer money is involved. Most people question where we came from > > > > and like it or not, there are two principal theories; creation and > > > > evolution. People should not be afraid of exploring either. > > > > > What makes this even more ridiculous is that all they were doing was > > > > offering a combo ticket to their respective events - The Festival of > > > > Lights and the Christmas celebration, Bethlehem’s Blessing. It wasn't > > > > like the zoo was endorsing the museum. It was two seasonal events > > > > teaming up to make it cheaper for people to see them both. The > > > > response to this was borderlines on anti-religious hysteria. And > > > > because of this hysterical reaction, and the zoo caving into it, those > > > > who wanted to see both events ended up paying more to do so. > > > > > On Dec 8, 3:50 pm, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > i think it is a good idea ! tax payer money should not be spent to > > > > > promote a religious theory > > > > > > On Dec 8, 11:52 am, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > You didn't say whether you thought this was a good decision or not, > > > > > > and if you do, why? > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 6:55 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Some complained that the zoo, which receives public support > > > > > > > through a > > > > > > > tax levy, should not become involved with a private museum > > > > > > > dedicated > > > > > > > to the teachings of the Bible’s Book of Genesis. Others said a > > > > > > > scientific institution shouldn’t link itself to a place that > > > > > > > argues > > > > > > > man once lived side by side with dinosaurs. > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 6:49 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > more attacks on religion by the insane leftists. no surprise. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 6:29 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Zoo pulls Creation Museum promotion > > > > > > > > > The Cincinnati Zoo and the Creation Museum launched a joint > > > > > > > > > promotional deal last week to draw attention to their holiday > > > > > > > > > attractions.http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20081201/NEWS01/81201045 > > > > > > > > > > It worked, but not the way zoo and museum officials had > > > > > > > > > hoped. > > > > > > > > > > The zoo pulled out of the deal Monday after receiving dozens > > > > > > > > > of angry > > > > > > > > > calls and e-mails about the partnership, which offered > > > > > > > > > reduced prices > > > > > > > > > to anyone who bought tickets to the zoo’s Festival of Lights > > > > > > > > > and the > > > > > > > > > museum’s Christmas celebration, Bethlehem’s Blessing. > > > > > > > > > > Most of the protests echoed the same theme: the Creation > > > > > > > > > Museum > > > > > > > > > promotes a religious point of view that conflicts with the > > > > > > > > > zoo’s > > > > > > > > > scientific mission. > > > > > > > > > > Some complained that the zoo, which receives public support > > > > > > > > > through a > > > > > > > > > tax levy, should not become involved with a private museum > > > > > > > > > dedicated > > > > > > > > > to the teachings of the Bible’s Book of Genesis. Others said a > > > > > > > > > scientific institution shouldn’t link itself to a place that > > > > > > > > > argues > > > > > > > > > man once lived side by side with dinosaurs. > > > > > > > > > > “They seem like diametrically opposed institutions,” said Dr. > > > > > > > > > James > > > > > > > > > Leach, a Cincinnati radiologist who e-mailed zoo officials > > > > > > > > > about his > > > > > > > > > concerns. “The Cincinnati Zoo is one of this city’s > > > > > > > > > treasures. The > > > > > > > > > Creation Museum is an international laughingstock.” > > > > > > > > > > Zoo officials said they considered the promotion – dubbed > > > > > > > > > “Two Great > > > > > > > > > Attractions, One Great Deal” – a marketing deal no different > > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > other cross-promotions they do with institutions like the > > > > > > > > > Newport > > > > > > > > > Aquarium or the Cincinnati Reds. > > > > > > > > > > Instead, they found themselves mired in a heated debate > > > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > > creationists and evolutionists over the origins of mankind. > > > > > > > > > Thanks to > > > > > > > > > the Internet, the opposition needed only a few days to > > > > > > > > > organize a > > > > > > > > > worldwide e-mail campaign and to set up a zoo boycott through > > > > > > > > > blogs > > > > > > > > > and a Facebook page. > > > > > > > > > > “It’s not about us endorsing them or them endorsing us,” said > > > > > > > > > Chad > > > > > > > > > Yelton, a zoo spokesman. “That wasn’t the intention of > > > > > > > > > anything we > > > > > > > > > were doing.” > > > > > > > > > > The Creation Museum’s founder, Ken Ham, said the Petersburg, > > > > > > > > > Ky., > > > > > > > > > museum and the zoo spent months preparing the cross-promotion > > > > > > > > > package. > > > > > > > > > He said the zoo’s decision to cut ties after two days was > > > > > > > > > disappointing and a missed opportunity to boost regional > > > > > > > > > tourism. > > > > > > > > > > Ham said he was “personally saddened” by the negative > > > > > > > > > response. > > > > > > > > > > “It’s a pity that intolerant people have pushed for our > > > > > > > > > expulsion > > > > > > > > > simply because of our Christian faith,” Ham said in a > > > > > > > > > statement. > > > > > > > > > “Some > > > > > > > > > of their comments … reveal great intolerance for anything > > > > > > > > > having to > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > with Christianity.” > > > > > > > > > > The museum, which opened in May 2007, has been praised by > > > > > > > > > supporters > > > > > > > > > as a bulwark against evolutionary teachings. It also has been > > > > > > > > > ridiculed by critics who say its displays, including a > > > > > > > > > triceratops > > > > > > > > > with a saddle on its back, are based on pseudo science. > > > > > > > > > > The ticket deal first appeared on web sites for both > > > > > > > > > institutions > > > > > > > > > Friday, offering a price of $25.95 for one ticket to both the > > > > > > > > > Festival > > > > > > > > > of Lights and Bethlehem’s Blessing, which features a live > > > > > > > > > nativity > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > a recreation of the streets of Bethlehem 2,000 years ago. > > > > > > > > > > But Yelton said the uproar became such a distraction by Monday > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > that zoo officials decided to pull it from the web site. > > > > > > > > > > No package deals had been sold, so no refunds will be > > > > > > > > > necessary. > > > > > > > > > > “When we partner with the Reds, we don’t get these kinds of > > > > > > > > > e-mails,” > > > > > > > > > Yelton said. “It’s pretty clear this is more of a > > > > > > > > > distraction.”- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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