frankg, Speak as you will, it's a free country. You were free to point out that "hysteria" was too strong a word to use in this situation just as i did. You chose to repeat words such as "hysteria" and "protest".
If free speach did not offend someone, somewhere for some reason then it would not be worth having. On Dec 8, 10:54 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hollywood, > > Hell, if I were a Ram's fan I'd be protesting too! > > Hey, just commenting on the story. I figured if it meant enough to > Mike to post it, the least I could do was add my $.02. Besides, I > thought it rather telling that Mike would think this was a good > thing. > > Agree that hysteria is too strong a term for this particular story, > but it does seem appropriate for what's going on these days with > anything that even hints of religion. The pettiness of these > complaints is getting out of control. > > And btw, the story used the word "protest".. I just repeated it. > > On Dec 8, 10:49 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > frankg, > > > Well hell, you have a pretty loose definition of the word hysteria > > lad. A PROTEST you say? > > People in St. Louis have done a hell of a lot more "protesting" over > > the miserable record of the Rams the past two season, head coach even > > got canned. Director of the zoo lose his/her job? Why is this such a > > big deal? > > > Of course you're allowed to make any comment you want here, as i am. > > > On Dec 8, 9:05 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > WHAT anti-religion hysteria? > > > > The PROTEST over the zoo and museum announcing a combo ticket, which > > > was directed to the zoo and was motivated because of the museum's > > > RELIGIOUS point of view. Pay attention. > > > > It was a fucking promotion for two seasonal events at a discounted > > > price and people protested, resulting in the promotion being pulled. > > > When you start protesting over such innocuous things as a ticket > > > promotions.. I consider that borderline hysteria. > > > > I'm crying about nothing but I am commenting on the stupidity of the > > > story Mike posted. I do believe I'm allowed to do that here. > > > > Your sarcasm is duly noted but I have no church and believe in > > > evolution. > > > > On Dec 8, 8:27 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > frankg, > > > > > WHAT anti-religion hysteria? > > > > Anyone walking into your church telling you what you can or cannot > > > > believe? > > > > Anyone walking into your home and telling you what to believe? > > > > School teaches your kid evolution anything keeping your kid from going > > > > home that night and saying "thank you God for creating evolution and > > > > puppy dogs and kitty cats"? > > > > > What are you crying about? > > > > > On Dec 8, 5:11 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hollywood, > > > > > > If that's the case then why all the anti-religion hysteria? Don't you > > > > > agree the reaction to this combo ticket idea was more than just a > > > > > little over the top? > > > > > > And I'm pretty sure you meant Big Bang, problem and controversy > > > > > ended. :) > > > > > > On Dec 8, 5:16 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > frankg, > > > > > > > Jesus, but this is a no-brainer. > > > > > > Evolution is pretty much a scientific fact. God created the process > > > > > > of > > > > > > evolution. Bada-Boom, Badda-Bing. problem and controversy ended. > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 4:07 pm, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > But it's OK for taxpayer money to promote evolution? It's not > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > the theory of evolution is a proven fact either. Both evolution > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > creation are unproven theories yet you object to only one where > > > > > > > taxpayer money is involved. Most people question where we came > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > and like it or not, there are two principal theories; creation and > > > > > > > evolution. People should not be afraid of exploring either. > > > > > > > > What makes this even more ridiculous is that all they were doing > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > offering a combo ticket to their respective events - The Festival > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Lights and the Christmas celebration, Bethlehem’s Blessing. It > > > > > > > wasn't > > > > > > > like the zoo was endorsing the museum. It was two seasonal events > > > > > > > teaming up to make it cheaper for people to see them both. The > > > > > > > response to this was borderlines on anti-religious hysteria. And > > > > > > > because of this hysterical reaction, and the zoo caving into it, > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > who wanted to see both events ended up paying more to do so. > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 3:50 pm, mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > i think it is a good idea ! tax payer money should not be spent > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > promote a religious theory > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 11:52 am, frankg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > > > > > You didn't say whether you thought this was a good decision > > > > > > > > > or not, > > > > > > > > > and if you do, why? > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 6:55 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Some complained that the zoo, which receives public support > > > > > > > > > > through a > > > > > > > > > > tax levy, should not become involved with a private museum > > > > > > > > > > dedicated > > > > > > > > > > to the teachings of the Bible’s Book of Genesis. Others > > > > > > > > > > said a > > > > > > > > > > scientific institution shouldn’t link itself to a place > > > > > > > > > > that argues > > > > > > > > > > man once lived side by side with dinosaurs. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 6:49 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > more attacks on religion by the insane leftists. no > > > > > > > > > > > surprise. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 8, 6:29 am, Liberal mike 532 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zoo pulls Creation Museum promotion > > > > > > > > > > > > The Cincinnati Zoo and the Creation Museum launched a > > > > > > > > > > > > joint > > > > > > > > > > > > promotional deal last week to draw attention to their > > > > > > > > > > > > holiday > > > > > > > > > > > > attractions.http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20081201/NEWS01/81201045 > > > > > > > > > > > > > It worked, but not the way zoo and museum officials > > > > > > > > > > > > had hoped. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The zoo pulled out of the deal Monday after receiving > > > > > > > > > > > > dozens of angry > > > > > > > > > > > > calls and e-mails about the partnership, which offered > > > > > > > > > > > > reduced prices > > > > > > > > > > > > to anyone who bought tickets to the zoo’s Festival of > > > > > > > > > > > > Lights and the > > > > > > > > > > > > museum’s Christmas celebration, Bethlehem’s Blessing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Most of the protests echoed the same theme: the > > > > > > > > > > > > Creation Museum > > > > > > > > > > > > promotes a religious point of view that conflicts with > > > > > > > > > > > > the zoo’s > > > > > > > > > > > > scientific mission. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some complained that the zoo, which receives public > > > > > > > > > > > > support through a > > > > > > > > > > > > tax levy, should not become involved with a private > > > > > > > > > > > > museum dedicated > > > > > > > > > > > > to the teachings of the Bible’s Book of Genesis. Others > > > > > > > > > > > > said a > > > > > > > > > > > > scientific institution shouldn’t link itself to a place > > > > > > > > > > > > that argues > > > > > > > > > > > > man once lived side by side with dinosaurs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > “They seem like diametrically opposed institutions,” > > > > > > > > > > > > said Dr. James > > > > > > > > > > > > Leach, a Cincinnati radiologist who e-mailed zoo > > > > > > > > > > > > officials about his > > > > > > > > > > > > concerns. “The Cincinnati Zoo is one of this city’s > > > > > > > > > > > > treasures. The > > > > > > > > > > > > Creation Museum is an international laughingstock.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zoo officials said they considered the promotion – > > > > > > > > > > > > dubbed “Two Great > > > > > > > > > > > > Attractions, One Great Deal” – a marketing deal no > > > > > > > > > > > > different than > > > > > > > > > > > > other cross-promotions they do with institutions like > > > > > > > > > > > > the Newport > > > > > > > > > > > > Aquarium or the Cincinnati Reds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instead, they found themselves mired in a heated debate > > > > > > > > > > > > between > > > > > > > > > > > > creationists and evolutionists over the origins of > > > > > > > > > > > > mankind. Thanks to > > > > > > > > > > > > the Internet, the opposition needed only a few days to > > > > > > > > > > > > organize a > > > > > > > > > > > > worldwide e-mail campaign and to set up a zoo boycott > > > > > > > > > > > > through blogs > > > > > > > > > > > > and a Facebook page. > > > > > > > > > > > > > “It’s not about us endorsing them or them endorsing > > > > > > > > > > > > us,” said Chad > > > > > > > > > > > > Yelton, a zoo spokesman. “That wasn’t the intention of > > > > > > > > > > > > anything we > > > > > > > > > > > > were doing.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Creation Museum’s founder, Ken Ham, said the > > > > > > > > > > > > Petersburg, Ky., > > > > > > > > > > > > museum and the zoo spent months preparing the > > > > > > > > > > > > cross-promotion > > > > > > > > > > > > package. > > > > > > > > > > > > He said the zoo’s decision to cut ties after two days > > > > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > disappointing and a missed opportunity to boost > > > > > > > > > > > > regional tourism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ham said he was “personally saddened” by the negative > > > > > > > > > > > > response. > > > > > > > > > > > > > “It’s a pity that intolerant people have pushed for our > > > > > > > > > > > > expulsion > > > > > > > > > > > > simply because of our Christian faith,” Ham said in a > > > > > > > > > > > > statement. > > > > > > > > > > > > “Some > > > > > > > > > > > > of their comments … reveal great intolerance for > > > > > > > > > > > > anything having to > > > > > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > with Christianity.” > > > > > > > > > > > > > The museum, which opened in May 2007, has been praised > > > > > > > > > > > > by supporters > > > > > > > > > > > > as a bulwark against evolutionary teachings. It also > > > > > > > > > > > > has been > > > > > > > > > > > > ridiculed by critics who say its displays, including a > > > > > > > > > > > > triceratops > > > > > > > > > > > > with a saddle on its back, are based on pseudo science. > > > > > > > > > > > > > The ticket deal first appeared on web sites for both > > > > > > > > > > > > institutions > > > > > > > > > > > > Friday, offering a price of $25.95 for one ticket to > > > > > > > > > > > > both the > > > > > > > > > > > > Festival > > > > > > > > > > > > of Lights and Bethlehem’s Blessing, which features a > > > > > > > > > > > > live nativity > > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > a recreation of the streets of Bethlehem 2,000 years > > > > > > > > > > > > ago. > > > > > > > > > > > > > But Yelton said the uproar became such a distraction by > > > > > > > > > > > > Monday > > > > > > > > > > > > morning > > > > > > > > > > > > that zoo > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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