i don't know that it applies to obama but your point is valid On Dec 18, 9:15 am, margareth <[email protected]> wrote: > Keep in mind that at one time Hawaii was once a British colony. There > are probably plenty of people with British/Anzac,/colonial accents > still there. But here is another red hering for you, would it be > possible that he was born on a ship of American registry, and would > that have made him an American born. In 1960, there were still > relatively cheap ocean liners which carried passengers across the > oceans. Hawaii was an important port of call. As a rule, a ship in > international waters follows the laws of the country of registry. An > American mother, who lived in a country as unsettled as Kenya was then > would almost certainly opt for going home, if at all possible, just to > make certain of her child's nationality. > > On Dec 18, 3:20 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > where in the world did you the idea that this guy talked likea he came > > from England ? > > > On Dec 17, 11:09 pm, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Waikiki was just about big enough to call a village in the 60s. They would > > > all remember a British accent African with a white woman. I support > > > Obama, I > > > support open honesty more and he has not touched this easily solved > > > issue. > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Depends on how cosmopolitan the area is. You'll get different answers > > > > in Quitman, GA than you would in NYC. > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:41 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Oh ??? Ask around in ANY neighborhood you choose... even today and > > > > > find out how many British accent Africans (NOT African Americans, he > > > > > was not one) have ever lived next door. I am quite sure you will get > > > > > DEFINITE answers one way or the other. > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2:26 pm, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > " quite the unusual combo in that time " > > > > > > i don't believe that was true of hawaii > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > What difference does that make to a reference about remembering a > > > > > > > mixed race couple in the 60s regardless of where you lived in the > > > > > > > States. Further, i gather from the "witnesses" or neighbors name > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > she is native and for sure would remember the Haole and Colored > > > > > > > man.... quite the unusual combo in that time. > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 9:03 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > how long did you live in Hawaii ? > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:00 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > WNCS, > > > > > > > > > > I would certainly remember a mixed race couple in the 60's, > > > > > > > > > and > > > > so > > > > > > > > > would anyone I have ever met from the states. > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I can name every neighbor within a mile of me in the > > > > > > > > > 60s > > > > in > > > > > > > > > the States and within 1/2 a mile from Germany wih absolute > > > > certainty. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 5:59 am, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So, they are basing their investigation on the fact that > > > > > > > > > > some > > > > old lady > > > > > > > > > > doesn't remember the family? LMAO! Can you name every single > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > you were living next to in 1961? > > > > > > > > > > Brace yourselves, Dems, we're going to hear this bellyaching > > > > for eight > > > > > > > > > > years, it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 6:33 am, mark <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > A private investigator has released to WND an affidavit > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > casts > > > > > > > > > > > doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at the > > > > > > > > > > > address > > > > listed in > > > > > > > > > > > the published notice of his birth in 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate issues related > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > birth amid allegations the Democrat > > > > > > > > > > > does not meet the Constitution's requirement that a > > > > > > > > > > > president > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > > "natural born citizen." > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit documents an interview his staff > > > > > > > > > > > conducted > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 Kalanianaole > > > > > > > > > > > Highway > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu since before Obama was born. > > > > > > > > > > > > The affadivit is at the center of a federal lawsuit filed > > > > prior to the > > > > > > > > > > > November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., before U.S. > > > > > > > > > > > District > > > > Judge > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several yet to be > > > > adjudicated that > > > > > > > > > > > calls for proof of Obama being a "natural born citizen" as > > > > required by > > > > > > > > > > > the Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public > > > > library > > > > > > > > > > > microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. > > > > 13, 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, Death" section > > > > read: "Mr. > > > > > > > > > > > and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, > > > > > > > > > > > Aug. > > > > 4." > > > > > > > > > > > > Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no recollection > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > > > > being born or of the family living next door having a > > > > > > > > > > > black > > > > child born > > > > > > > > > > > to a white mother. > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu to explore > > > > records > > > > > > > > > > > regarding current residents of Kalanianaole Highway and to > > > > track down > > > > > > > > > > > residents back to 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's investigators were unable to locate any current or > > > > past > > > > > > > > > > > resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or > > > > his family > > > > > > > > > > > living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser > > > > announcement. > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to > > > > examine > > > > > > > > > > > files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually > > > > placed the > > > > > > > > > > > ad. > > > > > > > > > > > > According to Baro's affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed > > > > > > > > > > > she > > > > was a > > > > > > > > > > > neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her > > > > > > > > > > > current > > > > residence > > > > > > > > > > > of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the > > > > > > > > > > > present. > > > > > > > > > > > > Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > > Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in > > > > > > > > > > > Waikiki, > > > > not on > > > > > > > > > > > Kalanianaole Highway. > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the > > > > residence at > > > > > > > > > > > 6085 Kalanianaole Highway – the alleged address of Obama's > > > > parents > > > > > > > > > > > when he was born – were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) > > > > Lefforge, both > > > > > > > > > > > of whom are deceased. > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit also documents that the Certification of > > > > Live Birth > > > > > > > > > > > that Obama posted on his campaign website is not the > > > > > > > > > > > original > > > > "long > > > > > > > > > > > form" birth certificate issued in 1961 by the > > > > > > > > > > > obstetrician or > > > > > > > > > > > physician giving birth and the hospital where the baby was > > > > born. > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's investigators learned that a "Certificate of > > > > > > > > > > > Hawaiian > > > > Birth > > > > > > > > > > > Program" established in 1911 during the territorial era > > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > terminated > > > > > > > > > > > in 1972 during the statehood era allowed Hawaiian > > > > > > > > > > > residents > > > > to apply > > > > > > > > > > > for a "Late Birth Certificate," called a "Certificate of > > > > Hawaiian > > > > > > > > > > > Birth," which appears identical to the "birth certificate" > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > > > > posted on his campaign website. > > > > >http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=83851-Hidequot... > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > Mark M. 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