that isn't what snopes says On Dec 19, 11:15 am, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> wrote: > No, I am not. It is common knowledge that a COLB suc as Obama has is a > form of ID, it does not prove he was born anywhere, just that the > birth was registered there. > > #201 (permalink) 11-29-2008, 09:49 AM > Gaar > Analyst Join Date: Jul 2006 > Location: Everett, WA > Age: 47 > Posts: 2,788 > > Credits: 16,175 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Quote: > Originally Posted by justabubba > really? please show us where you found that factual information which > was shared for all to accept > > Hawaii admits it themself... > > http://www.freedomszone.com/aggregator.php?id=50175 > > ...Under Hawaiian law, it is possible (both legally and illegally) for > a person to have been born out of state, yet have a birth certificate > on file in the Department of Health.A. From Hawaii's official > Department of Health, Vital Records webpage: "Amended certificates of > birth may be prepared and filed with the Department of Health, as > provided by law, for 1) a person born in Hawaii who already has a > birth certificate filed with the Department of Health or 2) a person > born in a foreign country" (applies to adopted children). B. A parent > may register an in-state birth in lieu of certification by a hospital > of birth under HRS 338-5.C. Hawaiian law expressly provides for > registration of out-of-state births under HRS 338-17.8. A foreign > birth presumably would have been recorded by the American consular of > the country of birth, and presumably that would be reflected on the > Hawaiian birth certificate.D. Hawaiian law, however, expressly > acknowledges that its system is subject to error. See, for example, > HRS 338-17.E. Hawaiian law expressly provides for verification in lieu > of certified copy of a birth certificate under HRS 338-14.3.F. Even > the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy > of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead > program. From its web site: "In order to process your application, > DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original > Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a > more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live > Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original > Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the > computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by > DHHL."2. Contrary to what you may have read, no document made > available to the public, nor any statement by Hawaiian officials, > evidences conclusively that Obama was born in Hawaii > > On 12/18/08, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > i think you are mistaken about that > > > On Dec 18, 10:54 am, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > They have yet to rule on the certificate. It does NOT meet the standard IN > > > Hawaii for state assistance, Just the vault copy does. for all the hoopla > > > no > > > none in the Hawaiin Gov. has said or confirmed anything except that one > > > exists. > > > > On 12/18/08, wncs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Is there any evidence to suggest he was born on a ship? > > > > Once again, the state of Hawaii has a birth certificate on record. If > > > > it's good enough to satisfy the Supreme Court, it's good enough for > > > > me. > > > > > On Dec 18, 9:15 am, margareth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Keep in mind that at one time Hawaii was once a British colony. There > > > > > are probably plenty of people with British/Anzac,/colonial accents > > > > > still there. But here is another red hering for you, would it be > > > > > possible that he was born on a ship of American registry, and would > > > > > that have made him an American born. In 1960, there were still > > > > > relatively cheap ocean liners which carried passengers across the > > > > > oceans. Hawaii was an important port of call. As a rule, a ship in > > > > > international waters follows the laws of the country of registry. An > > > > > American mother, who lived in a country as unsettled as Kenya was then > > > > > would almost certainly opt for going home, if at all possible, just to > > > > > make certain of her child's nationality. > > > > > > On Dec 18, 3:20 am, Florida Cracker 532 <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > where in the world did you the idea that this guy talked likea he > > > > > > came > > > > > > from England ? > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:09 pm, "fred frederico" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Waikiki was just about big enough to call a village in the 60s. > > > > > > > They > > > > would > > > > > > > all remember a British accent African with a white woman. I > > > > > > > support > > > > Obama, I > > > > > > > support open honesty more and he has not touched this easily > > > > solved issue. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:04 PM, wncs <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Depends on how cosmopolitan the area is. You'll get different > > > > answers > > > > > > > > in Quitman, GA than you would in NYC. > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:41 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Oh ??? Ask around in ANY neighborhood you choose... even today > > > > and > > > > > > > > > find out how many British accent Africans (NOT African > > > > > > > > > Americans, > > > > he > > > > > > > > > was not one) have ever lived next door. I am quite sure you > > > > > > > > > will > > > > get > > > > > > > > > DEFINITE answers one way or the other. > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2:26 pm, Florida Cracker 532 > > > > > > > > > <[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > " quite the unusual combo in that time " > > > > > > > > > > i don't believe that was true of hawaii > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 11:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike. > > > > > > > > > > > > What difference does that make to a reference about > > > > remembering a > > > > > > > > > > > mixed race couple in the 60s regardless of where you > > > > > > > > > > > lived in > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > States. Further, i gather from the "witnesses" or > > > > > > > > > > > neighbors > > > > name that > > > > > > > > > > > she is native and for sure would remember the Haole and > > > > Colored > > > > > > > > > > > man.... quite the unusual combo in that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 9:03 am, Florida Cracker 532 < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > how long did you live in Hawaii ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 10:00 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WNCS, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would certainly remember a mixed race couple in the > > > > 60's, and > > > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > > > > would anyone I have ever met from the states. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And yes, I can name every neighbor within a mile of > > > > > > > > > > > > > me in > > > > the 60s > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > the States and within 1/2 a mile from Germany wih > > > > absolute > > > > > > > > certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 5:59 am, wncs <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, they are basing their investigation on the fact > > > > that some > > > > > > > > old lady > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't remember the family? LMAO! Can you name > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every > > > > single > > > > > > > > family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you were living next to in 1961? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brace yourselves, Dems, we're going to hear this > > > > bellyaching > > > > > > > > for eight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > years, it seems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 17, 6:33 am, mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A private investigator has released to WND an > > > > affidavit that > > > > > > > > casts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doubt on whether Barack Obama's family lived at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > address > > > > > > > > listed in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the published notice of his birth in 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jorge Baro was hired by WND to investigate issues > > > > related to > > > > > > > > Obama's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > birth amid allegations the Democrat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does not meet the Constitution's requirement that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > president > > > > > > > > be a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "natural born citizen." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Baro's affidavit documents an interview his staff > > > > conducted > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Beatrice Arakaki, who has lived at 6075 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kalanianaole > > > > Highway > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Honolulu since before Obama was born. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The affadivit is at the center of a federal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lawsuit > > > > filed > > > > > > > > prior to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > November election in Hattiesburg, Miss., before > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > U.S. > > > > District > > > > > > > > Judge > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keith Starrett. The suit is one of several yet to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > adjudicated that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > calls for proof of Obama being a "natural born > > > > citizen" as > > > > > > > > required by > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Constitution. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the Honolulu > > > > public > > > > > > > > library > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Advertiser > > > > Aug. > > > > > > > > 13, 1961. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The announcement in the "Births, Marriages, Death" > > > > section > > > > > > > > read: "Mr. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., > > > > son, Aug. > > > > > > > > 4." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Arakaki told Baro's investigators she had no > > > > recollection of > > > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > being born or of the family living next door > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having a > > > > black > > > > > > > > child born > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
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