i think there is a vast difference believing in God and believing in an organised religion .
On Jan 14, 1:06 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote: > ALBERT EINSTEIN, GENIOUS, HUMANITARIAN, SOCIALIST > > Einstein was an agnostic, he referred to religion obliquely, ("Science > without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind") he did > not believe in a personal god, > > "The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more > certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not > lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, > but through striving after rational knowledge." Albert Einstein > > "A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, > education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would > indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of > punishment and hope of reward after death." Albert Einstein > > Not only was Einstein an agnostic a scientific genius and a committed > humanitarian, he was also an overt and committed advocate of Marxist > socialism as the only way that the human race can extract itself from > the horrors of war, poverty and religious mysticism. > > "We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is > to survive." > Why Socialism? By Albert Einsteinhttp://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Einstein.htm > > "Really smart people understand the > limitations of human understanding as well as its great > potential." (the pathetic basis for the idiotic pseudo science > ‘intelligent design’) > > Like Einstein, I believe that everything has the potential to be > understood. How did we get from the caves to the moon, through the > belief in God? How many heretics were burnt at the stake for > suggesting the sun was the centre of the solar system and not the > earth? > > "The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is > comprehensible." > Albert Einstein > > A couple of wonderful quotes by Einstein that refute the misanthropic > philistinism of conservatism. > > "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. > The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly > submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his > intelligence." > > "He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my > contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him > the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization > should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I > hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be > torn to shreds > > Not only was the greatest scientific mind of the 20th century an > advocate of socialism, so was one of its greatest literary minds Oscar > Wilde. > > "The soul of man under socialism" Oscar > Wilde.http://libcom.org/library/soul-of-man-under-socialism-oscar-wilde > > In The Soul of Man, Wilde argues that, under capitalism, "the majority > of people spoil their lives by an unhealthy and exaggerated altruism— > are forced, indeed, so to spoil them": instead of realising their true > talents, they waste their time solving the social problems caused by > capitalism, without taking their common cause away. In a socialist > society, people will have the possibility to realise their talents; > "Socialism itself", Wilde writes, "will be of value simply because it > will lead to individualism." > > When considering perspectives there is no comparison. > > Amassed on the one side are the the greatest minds of history and on > the other are the reactionaries despots and fools. > > On Jan 14, 3:44 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Ethics and morality are diametrically opposed to religion. > > > More absurdity. You don't seem to be able to differentiate religion > > from certain people who use it or pervert it for there own purposes. > > And before you relegate religion to the "anti-scientific", understand > > that people who's scientific minds dwarf your own abilities, like > > Einstein, believed in a God. Really smart people understand the > > limitations of human understanding as well as iits great potential. > > > On Jan 13, 6:41 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Ethics and morality are diametrically opposed to religion. The > > > inquistion, the facist mafia gangsterism of the catholic church and > > > the backward anti-scientific position of christian fundementalism are > > > evidence enough that religion is a doctrine of reaction and > > > philistinism. > > > > Even so, philistines have a right to practice their stupidity, but > > > they do not have the right to inflict it upon the wider community. > > > > Man's aspiration for a society based on the highest moral and ethical > > > principles cannot be achieved on the basis of ideology or even on the > > > best of intentions as put forward by the founding fathers. it must be > > > based on the rationalization logical distribution of the wealth of the > > > world, eradicating the current system based on man's exploitation of > > > man and the private ownership of the world's resources which belong to > > > all--not to Halliburton, exxon mobile, roi tinto etc. > > > > The current crisis is a crisis of the contradictions of a system that > > > is not fit for savages > > > > > What? Absurd! Thats like saying that peoples ethics should not > > > > influence their decision making in public office. > > > > > On Jan 12, 4:47 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Do you need to refer to the constitution before you wipe your ass? > > > > > > It is an axiomatic necessity that no religious deity should be able to > > > > > influence the affairs of state in a functioning democracy. There is no > > > > > surer sign of the advanced decay of bourgeois democracy throughout the > > > > > world than its desperate reactionary capitulation to backward > > > > > religious obscurantism. > > > > > > When governments extol the sacred virtures of their culture, their > > > > > religion, their way of life, what they are doing is cynically > > > > > attempting to preserve the status quo and their position of power in > > > > > society. > > > > > > On Jan 12, 9:29 am, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > The constiution bars the government form establishing a state > > > > > > religion. There is no "separation of church and state" provision. > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 5:12 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > in the stated ways. > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 2:57 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > LOL! Violates the constitution? How? > > > > > > > > > On Jan 11, 3:22 am, "florida mike !" <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > lets see first of all the title to your thread is false and > > > > > > > > > misleading > > > > > > > > > and secondly the schoolis violating the constitution by not > > > > > > > > > sperating > > > > > > > > > church and state ! > > > > > > > > > H.S. v. Huntington County Comm. School Corp. (U.S. Dist.Ct. > > > > > > > > > – No. > > > > > > > > > Dist. of Indiana) [Filed > > > > > > > > > 11/08]http://www.aclu-in.org/subpage.asp?p=32 > > > > > > > > > This case challenges the fact that the school corporation > > > > > > > > > allows a > > > > > > > > > release time religious program to operate during school hours > > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > trailer on school property which is hooked up to school > > > > > > > > > electricity. > > > > > > > > > Additionally, the public school teachers escort the children > > > > > > > > > back and > > > > > > > > > forth to the programming. > > > > > > > > > ATTORNEY(S): Jacquelyn Bowie Suess > > > > > > > > > > &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 6:24 pm, Travis <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > AKA: American Communist Lovers Union > > > > > > > > > > > From: Travis > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, Jan 10, 2009 > > > > > > > > > > Subject: ACLU Continues Pushing For Atheism As The Official > > > > > > > > > > Religion Of > > > > > > > > > > Country | American Conservative Daily > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2009/01/aclu-continues-pushi... > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > *~@):~{>- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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