KIT, Of course there is. that's why I said it.
On May 3, 5:37 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Holly, > > There is some truth in what you say. I would be in favor of doing away with > the federal government agencies, and dealing with a Union any day, as most > businessmen would. > > I used to espouse and advocate "the stewardship of the federal government" > in certain situations, like protection of the environment, the exploration > of space, the prevention of diseases, etc. > > I was wrong. The federal government has no business involved in any of > these matters, and they have fucked up everything that they have ever > touched. Name one thing the federal government does well? The answer is > nothing. They don't even collect taxes efficiently or fairly. > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Hollywood <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > KIT, > > > Matter of opinion. Most of those "alphabet agencies" are toothless > > tigers. The politicians in the executive and legislative branches at > > any given time can make those agencies impotent at will by under- > > funding them, putting an anti-labor person at their head, etc. etc. > > "Shaking down the working man"? Sounds like a description of Congress > > and politicians in general. > > > On May 3, 11:48 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bull Hocky Holly, > > > > Unions are outdated. If we didn't have a huge, expansive, > > unconstitutional > > > federal government, I might tend to agree with you, but federal > > Departments > > > and Agencies like DOT, OSHA, Wage & Hour, EPA, HUD, etc., have replaced > > > everything that a Union once did. Now, they are nothing less than a > > > racketeer influenced organization, shaking down the working man in order > > to > > > maintain their existence. > > > > On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Hollywood <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > dick, > > > > > Your late, we already discussed this. Scroll up and read the previous > > > > posts. > > > > They pay wages and benefits enough to give the employees no incentive > > > > to join the UAW. The unions must be kept strong enough to make that > > > > threat viable. Few corporations pay their workers a dime more than > > > > they feel they need to. > > > > > On May 3, 10:24 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Good luck buying a Toyota built in Ohio. They are built in Kentucky. > > > > > Honda is built in Ohio. Most of the profitable car companies here > > now, > > > > > however, build in the southern states where they stand a chance of > > > > > building without the horrendous union contracts that did a lot to > > bring > > > > > down the old line car companies. And what Ford is built in Brazil? > > > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > > > > > dick, > > > > > > > Just an idle question for you. What do you consider an American > > car? > > > > > > I, for example, would buy a Toyota built in Ohio before i would buy > > a > > > > > > Ford built in Brasil. After all, an American worker is getting a > > good > > > > > > paycheck, good benefits, spending that paycheck in the community > > where > > > > > > he lives. > > > > > > > On May 1, 10:43 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/us/politics/01obama.html?_r=1&th&em...- > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
