Nothing. They are not needed if the people do their own jobs. They were not needed when they were created. It was all just a feel good exercise that either did nothing of value or made the situation worse.
Hollywood wrote On 05/03/2009 07:22 PM: > dick, > > OK, so who or what would you replace those agencies with? > Not saying that you are essentially wrong. So who would you put in > charge of making sure our air, water and environment is not poisened? > Who would you put in charge to make sure our workers are not screwed? > I'm listening. > > On May 3, 6:10 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On the other hand they can fund them and make them non-toothless tigers >> and then we will be truly in the soup. What needs to happen is that >> these agencies need to disappear, not just be defunded. Then we can see >> that they do not do any more harm than they already have. It is like >> some of te old laws. So long as they are on the books the government >> can make them active any time it wants. What we are seeing with these >> liberals is that they keep putting bandaids on problems and claiming >> they fixed it. It is all a temporary fix that gets made permanent >> because it never again gets addressed. Rather than going back to first >> principles and actually doing it right they just compound the problem >> by piling statute on top of statute on top of the original bad law to >> the point that nobody can get to the base problem. At that point this >> crew then funds a new agency doing the same thing as the old agency did >> only with a new set of laws but the old ones are still there to be >> brought back any time they want. And then they claim they fixed the >> problem. We end up with duplicate agencies who get in each other's way >> and as a result nothing gets fixed at all but the media plays it as if >> the genius did it. That is what we are seeing now and it is going to be >> a bigger and bigger mess as a result but the media will proclaim him a >> Wonder and a National Treasure. >> >> Hollywood wrote On 05/03/2009 06:30 PM: >> >> >> >> >>> KIT, >>> >>> Matter of opinion. Most of those "alphabet agencies" are toothless >>> tigers. The politicians in the executive and legislative branches at >>> any given time can make those agencies impotent at will by under- >>> funding them, putting an anti-labor person at their head, etc. etc. >>> "Shaking down the working man"? Sounds like a description of Congress >>> and politicians in general. >>> >>> On May 3, 11:48 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Bull Hocky Holly, >>>> >>>> Unions are outdated. If we didn't have a huge, expansive, unconstitutional >>>> federal government, I might tend to agree with you, but federal Departments >>>> and Agencies like DOT, OSHA, Wage & Hour, EPA, HUD, etc., have replaced >>>> everything that a Union once did. Now, they are nothing less than a >>>> racketeer influenced organization, shaking down the working man in order to >>>> maintain their existence. >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Hollywood >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> dick, >>>>> >>>>> Your late, we already discussed this. Scroll up and read the previous >>>>> posts. >>>>> They pay wages and benefits enough to give the employees no incentive >>>>> to join the UAW. The unions must be kept strong enough to make that >>>>> threat viable. Few corporations pay their workers a dime more than >>>>> they feel they need to. >>>>> >>>>> On May 3, 10:24 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Good luck buying a Toyota built in Ohio. They are built in Kentucky. >>>>>> Honda is built in Ohio. Most of the profitable car companies here now, >>>>>> however, build in the southern states where they stand a chance of >>>>>> building without the horrendous union contracts that did a lot to bring >>>>>> down the old line car companies. And what Ford is built in Brazil? >>>>>> >>>>>> Hollywood wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> dick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just an idle question for you. What do you consider an American car? >>>>>>> I, for example, would buy a Toyota built in Ohio before i would buy a >>>>>>> Ford built in Brasil. After all, an American worker is getting a good >>>>>>> paycheck, good benefits, spending that paycheck in the community where >>>>>>> he lives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 1, 10:43 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/us/politics/01obama.html?_r=1&th&em...text >>>>> - >>>>> >>>>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>>>> >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >>>> >> - Show quoted text - >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
