dick, OK, so who or what would you replace those agencies with? Not saying that you are essentially wrong. So who would you put in charge of making sure our air, water and environment is not poisened? Who would you put in charge to make sure our workers are not screwed? I'm listening.
On May 3, 6:10 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > On the other hand they can fund them and make them non-toothless tigers > and then we will be truly in the soup. What needs to happen is that > these agencies need to disappear, not just be defunded. Then we can see > that they do not do any more harm than they already have. It is like > some of te old laws. So long as they are on the books the government > can make them active any time it wants. What we are seeing with these > liberals is that they keep putting bandaids on problems and claiming > they fixed it. It is all a temporary fix that gets made permanent > because it never again gets addressed. Rather than going back to first > principles and actually doing it right they just compound the problem > by piling statute on top of statute on top of the original bad law to > the point that nobody can get to the base problem. At that point this > crew then funds a new agency doing the same thing as the old agency did > only with a new set of laws but the old ones are still there to be > brought back any time they want. And then they claim they fixed the > problem. We end up with duplicate agencies who get in each other's way > and as a result nothing gets fixed at all but the media plays it as if > the genius did it. That is what we are seeing now and it is going to be > a bigger and bigger mess as a result but the media will proclaim him a > Wonder and a National Treasure. > > Hollywood wrote On 05/03/2009 06:30 PM: > > > > > KIT, > > > Matter of opinion. Most of those "alphabet agencies" are toothless > > tigers. The politicians in the executive and legislative branches at > > any given time can make those agencies impotent at will by under- > > funding them, putting an anti-labor person at their head, etc. etc. > > "Shaking down the working man"? Sounds like a description of Congress > > and politicians in general. > > > On May 3, 11:48 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Bull Hocky Holly, > > >> Unions are outdated. If we didn't have a huge, expansive, unconstitutional > >> federal government, I might tend to agree with you, but federal Departments > >> and Agencies like DOT, OSHA, Wage & Hour, EPA, HUD, etc., have replaced > >> everything that a Union once did. Now, they are nothing less than a > >> racketeer influenced organization, shaking down the working man in order to > >> maintain their existence. > > >> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Hollywood > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> dick, > > >>> Your late, we already discussed this. Scroll up and read the previous > >>> posts. > >>> They pay wages and benefits enough to give the employees no incentive > >>> to join the UAW. The unions must be kept strong enough to make that > >>> threat viable. Few corporations pay their workers a dime more than > >>> they feel they need to. > > >>> On May 3, 10:24 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> Good luck buying a Toyota built in Ohio. They are built in Kentucky. > >>>> Honda is built in Ohio. Most of the profitable car companies here now, > >>>> however, build in the southern states where they stand a chance of > >>>> building without the horrendous union contracts that did a lot to bring > >>>> down the old line car companies. And what Ford is built in Brazil? > > >>>> Hollywood wrote: > > >>>>> dick, > > >>>>> Just an idle question for you. What do you consider an American car? > >>>>> I, for example, would buy a Toyota built in Ohio before i would buy a > >>>>> Ford built in Brasil. After all, an American worker is getting a good > >>>>> paycheck, good benefits, spending that paycheck in the community where > >>>>> he lives. > > >>>>> On May 1, 10:43 am, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/01/us/politics/01obama.html?_r=1&th&em...text > >>> - > > >>>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
