In case you missed where I told jgg100 that "I agree with you on this issue", what that meant was: I agree with him on the issue of this post. I disagree with VT on the issue of this post. Hoping that's not written in language that's too complicated to understand. More than that, I think it's ridiculous for anyone to believe that during any administration, there hasn't been wet work done. It's being done now. It was done then. It was done before then. It will be done after now. Sorry VT but there are bad people out there who are slick enough at covering their tracks that, they will never be listed as enemy combatants. And every administration in our country's history has had something done by the CIA, NSA, one of four military agencies or one of the special forces, that wasn't openly sanctioned. To believe otherwise is naive. Just the "Moonbat Liberal's" point of view (as expressed on the other board, when you first posted this there)..... ;-)
On Jul 16, 6:46 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Sean, > > It has been reported for days, on every mainstream news organization, that > "The Plan" never went into effect. > > What part of that don't you get or understand? > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:19 PM, VT VirtualTruth > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > You conveniently ignored the point that the program was REOPENED, > > as stated in the article thus making you entire response Mote. > > > "but the plan was later resurrected by Tenet's > > successor, Porter Goss. " > > > On Jul 16, 9:10 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sugarshack, > > > > Once again, like I tell another "left of center" member of the group; > > "You > > > should read the article several times before you post something in > > > response". > > > > Let's review, follow me closely here: > > > > (From your article) > > > > "Several officials say Tenet ended the program in 2004 BECAUSE THE AGENCY > > > COULD NOT WORK OUT THE PRACTICAL DETAILS TO PUT IT INTO USE during its > > first > > > three-year incarnation." > > > > In other words, the "plan" never went into affect. Vice President > > Cheney > > > followed the law. The Congress isn't informed on every conceivable idea, > > > thought process, or "plan" that are never instituted or put into place. > > > > Again, much ado about nothing, with the attempt to detract the American > > > public, and cover Nanc's lying ass. > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:02 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > (AP) Former intelligence officials say ex-CIA Director George Tenet > > > > terminated a secret program to develop special hit teams to take out > > > > al Qaeda leaders in 2004 but the plan was later resurrected by Tenet's > > > > successor, Porter Goss. > > > > > Several officials say Tenet ended the program in 2004 because the > > > > agency could not work out the practical details to put it into use > > > > during its first three-year incarnation. All spoke on condition of > > > > anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter. > > > > > Current CIA chief Leon Panetta told the congressional intelligence > > > > committee members in June that he had canceled the program after > > > > learning of its existence. Panetta also told lawmakers that former > > > > Vice President Dick Cheney initially directed the CIA not to inform > > > > Congress about the effort. > > > > >http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/15/national/main5162724.shtml > > > > > On Jul 16, 8:58 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > What was closed and then reopened? What money are you talking about > > > > being > > > > > spent? Links/Citations please. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:51 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Unfortunately the history of the Bush Administration contradicts > > your > > > > > > opinion. If this was never implemented, why was so much money > > spent? > > > > > > Why was it closed and then reopened? Answer those questions please. > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 8:43 pm, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Sugarshack, > > > > > > > > What I find a bit ironic, is this whole, "Alex Jones-ish/Wacko > > Right, > > > > > > > Conspiratorialist Crackpot" type mentality, that is coming from > > the > > > > > > "Wacko > > > > > > > Left, Socialist-Elitist Moonbats". > > > > > > > > There was no covert attempt to take out al Queda leaders, there > > was a > > > > > > plan, > > > > > > > which was never initiated or carried through. > > > > > > > > There was a plan to invade Japan with American forces back in > > > > 1942-1943, > > > > > > > that was not carried out either. There was a plan to invade Cuba > > > > with > > > > > > > poisoned rabbits that was never carried out. There have been > > > > numerous > > > > > > plans > > > > > > > discussed. > > > > > > > > What is the big deal, other than Nanc, Harry, Di-Fi, Babs, Rahm, > > and > > > > a > > > > > > host > > > > > > > of other socialists want to detract from the largest tax increase > > > > that > > > > > > has > > > > > > > ever been put into place upon the American people, the economy is > > > > failing > > > > > > > miserably, and the Obama Administration is attempting to re-write > > our > > > > > > whole > > > > > > > way of life, our style of government and economics, etc., and > > this is > > > > > > > nothing more, and nothing less than another mechanism to detract > > the > > > > > > > American people's attention. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 8:34 PM, VT VirtualTruth > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > OK Sage WHY did Cheney then say to the CIA NOT > > > > > > > > to inform Congress when the article said the Bush > > > > > > > > Administration WOULD keep Congress in the loop? > > > > > > > > > Under current intelligence law, the president must sign a > > finding > > > > to > > > > > > > > provide the legal basis for covert actions to be carried out by > > the > > > > > > > > C.I.A. In response to past abuses, the decision-making process > > has > > > > > > > > grown into a highly formalized review in which the White House, > > > > > > > > Justice Department, State Department, Pentagon and C.I.A. take > > > > part. > > > > > > > > > The administration must notify Congressional leaders of any > > covert > > > > > > > > action finding signed by the president. In the case of the > > > > > > > > presidential finding authorizing the use of lethal force > > against > > > > > > > > members of Al Qaeda, Congressional leaders have been notified > > as > > > > > > > > required, the officials said. > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 5:51 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > VT try again: > > >www.nytimes.com/2002/12/15/international/15INTE.html?pagewanted=2 > > > ********************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 5:19 pm, VT VirtualTruth < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The link did not work, something about a seven day period. > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 10:38 am, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > VT, > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is it that you and your liberal > > friends > > > > are > > > > > > lying > > > > > > > > > > > about this. It is obviously a political cover for > > Pelosi's > > > > > > > > > > > accusations. Read the attached link that the NYT > > published > > > > in > > > > > > Dec. > > > > > > > > > > > 2002. > > > > > > >www.nytimes.com/2002/12/15/international/15INTE...... > > > ********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 10:03 am, plainolamerican < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find no reason to > > > > > > > > > > > > hide the killing of Al qaeda leaders from the > > > > > > > > > > > > Congressional over sight Committee Chairman. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > I do and so did Cheney. > > > > > > > > > > > > > so, the military was given a green light to kill our > > > > enemies > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > the CIA? > > > > > > > > > > > > that's insanity > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:32 pm, VT VirtualTruth < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you sure? Because I find no reason to > > > > > > > > > > > > > hide the killing of Al qaeda leaders from the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Congressional over sight Committee Chairman. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bush said this was the objective PUBLICLY in > > speeches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 8:25 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The plan was to kill the al Queda leaders, not > > their > > > > > > > > supporters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 8:21 pm, VT Sean Lewis < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday I asked myself a question, what would > > make > > > > an > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > qaeda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hit team illegal? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A hit team that killed prominent foreigners in > > > > foreign > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > countries who supported or helped finance Al > > qaeda? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought.....- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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