how about the thirty oir so thousand that died in central america in the same time period at thands of alzheimer ronnie. ?? US forces lead by Felix Rodriguez (I know, I met him there)
please read the republican dominated "senate intelligence report" from sept 2006 that says ALL the info you are trying to feed me now is pure BULLSHIT.... On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Thedifference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > having gas was 25 years..... > > Really?LOL! Did the thousands who died wretching deaths come back to > life in those 25 years? Did Saddam act like he'd become a humanitarian > in those 25 years? Oh WAIT! Thats right! Saddam insisted that he still > HAD WMDs. Only when the UN sanctioned him did he say they were > gone.....supplying no evidence of their disposal, of course. > > >as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... > > ROTFLMAO. You are either a very bad liar or a complete idiot. I think > both. Bye! > > On Jul 18, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: > > I didn't think he ahd gas or wmd's or nukes (though I Knew he was > > sitting on a research reactor and a mountain of yellow cake) The > > difference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > > having gas was 25 years..... > > > > as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... You are right the US is a > > danger even to itself. The only deluded person/people seems to be you > > and Gringolandia. > > > > On Jul 18, 12:07 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > > > > > We thought he had poison gas. Our soldiers were equipped to confront > > > it. > > > > > Everybody thought he had WMDs, mostly because he not only HAD them but > > > because he used them against his enemies. > > > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state > > > > > Actually, they were. Iraq had completed construction of a nuclear > > > reactor (That makes you a nuclear nation state) but Israel immediately > > > blew it up. (Thank you Israel). > > > > > Some people would say that a leader who builds a nuclear reactor > > > despite worldwide protests and has and uses poison gas on neighboring > > > countries and his own people was a dangerous guy. Other people like > > > deluding themselves. > > > > > On Jul 18, 1:42 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > Large, > > > > tight formations are easy targets and we know that. Not to mention > > > > that we would have sent a least one division to sweep and search the > > > > area where we "knew" the WMD's were for residual (or any other) > > > > evidence they ever existed. We never did. Not one peek. I'm former > > > > navy intel and i can assure you, even though Bush screwed our Humint > > > > network fro some time to come, we still would have been able to find > > > > evidence - if believed it was ever there. > > > > But I get it. You really, really, really want to believe there were > > > > WMD's there. Okay. > > > > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state but > > > > again, if you really want to believe it is or was, okay dokey. > > > > > > Talk about wanting to believe lies. > > > > > > I've lost five friends in Iraq. All of them Psy-Ops and a couple > Force > > > > Recon. They've made it clear for years that Iraq will never > appreciate > > > > what we've done and no matter how long we're there, they'll regress > > > > shortly after we leave. Two thousand years of culture. > > > > Iraq has already made clear they view US as outsiders and went out of > > > > the way to spit in Bush's face before he could get out of office. But > > > > you believe what you want to believe. > > > > > > On Jul 18, 7:23 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >>> We also had the certainty that there really were no WMD's > > > > > > > Not true. > > > > > > > >>> Urban warfare, their commitment to keep fighting people they > viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any kind of > > > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > > > > > > Once again you show little understanding... Both AQ and the > > > > > Americans are outsiders... As is the harsh form of Radical > Islam... > > > > > As is the lowland Pakistani... The question here is not fighting > the > > > > > outsider BUT WHICH OUTSIDER... The exit strategy? Stability and > a > > > > > non Radical Islamic government in a nuclear nation-state... > > > > > > > >>> I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border them. > They had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & technology > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only at blowing up > weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's a mess > > > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > > > > > > Tactics and technology make a huge difference... As the fact the > our > > > > > WILLINGNESS and desire to be a long term occupying power is far > less > > > > > than the Russians or the Pakistanis as makes a difference... The > > > > > Russian border aided in supplying their troops but harmed the "Soft > > > > > Warfare" in being seen a a long term occupying power... > > > > > > > >>> The only upside is at least we're actually going after people > we have truthful cause to go after. > > > > > > > Once again you proclaim Urban Lies... > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:58 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with you about Iraq. We had so many sanctions on Iraq > before > > > > > > invading, they couldn't import dental equipment (because it could > > > > > > possibly be modified for weapons use - go figure). We also had > the > > > > > > certainty that there really were no WMD's. So it was nothing to > storm > > > > > > right in. Like you said, cakewalk getting there. It was afterward > the > > > > > > problems started. Urban warfare, their commitment to keep > fighting > > > > > > people they viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any kind > of > > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > > > > > I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border them. > They > > > > > > had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & > technology > > > > > > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only at > > > > > > blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's a > mess > > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > > > > > The only upside is at least we're actually going after people we > have > > > > > > truthful cause to go after. > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 11:40 pm, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Iraq was [almost] a cake walk, compared to what we face in > > > > > > > Afghanistan. Even with enough troops (500,000 +/-), it'll take > a > > > > > > > generation to pacify Afghanistan - a mountainous moonscape the > size of > > > > > > > Texas covered with 70-million ants (nomads, warring tribes - > barefoot, > > > > > > > illiterate villages). There's nothing there to "rebuild," it's > all > > > > > > > from scratch. The people are suspicious of everything, even a > simple, > > > > > > > local hydro-pump to generate electricity. > > > > > > > > > Then there's Pakistan, blood-brother to Afghanistan; we'll > never > > > > > > > subdue one without subduing the other. And by that time we'll > be > > > > > > > broke, no longer a viable nation - which makes the whole surge- > > > > > > > strategy a lethal mistake.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Mark M. 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