The subject was AFghanistan and Iraq Mark wrote: > how about the thirty oir so thousand that died in central america in > the same time period at thands of alzheimer ronnie. ?? US forces lead > by Felix Rodriguez (I know, I met him there) > > please read the republican dominated "senate intelligence report" from > sept 2006 that says ALL the info you are trying to feed me now is pure > BULLSHIT.... > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Zebnick <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >Thedifference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > having gas was 25 years..... > > Really?LOL! Did the thousands who died wretching deaths come back to > life in those 25 years? Did Saddam act like he'd become a humanitarian > in those 25 years? Oh WAIT! Thats right! Saddam insisted that he still > HAD WMDs. Only when the UN sanctioned him did he say they were > gone.....supplying no evidence of their disposal, of course. > > >as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... > > ROTFLMAO. You are either a very bad liar or a complete idiot. I think > both. Bye! > > On Jul 18, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > I didn't think he ahd gas or wmd's or nukes (though I Knew he was > > sitting on a research reactor and a mountain of yellow cake) The > > difference in time from having used and being falsely accused of > > having gas was 25 years..... > > > > as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built > > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... You are right the US > is a > > danger even to itself. The only deluded person/people seems to > be you > > and Gringolandia. > > > > On Jul 18, 12:07 pm, Zebnick <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > >If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. > > > > > We thought he had poison gas. Our soldiers were equipped to > confront > > > it. > > > > > Everybody thought he had WMDs, mostly because he not only HAD > them but > > > because he used them against his enemies. > > > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state > > > > > Actually, they were. Iraq had completed construction of a nuclear > > > reactor (That makes you a nuclear nation state) but Israel > immediately > > > blew it up. (Thank you Israel). > > > > > Some people would say that a leader who builds a nuclear reactor > > > despite worldwide protests and has and uses poison gas on > neighboring > > > countries and his own people was a dangerous guy. Other people > like > > > deluding themselves. > > > > > On Jul 18, 1:42 pm, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we > did. Large, > > > > tight formations are easy targets and we know that. Not to > mention > > > > that we would have sent a least one division to sweep and > search the > > > > area where we "knew" the WMD's were for residual (or any other) > > > > evidence they ever existed. We never did. Not one peek. I'm > former > > > > navy intel and i can assure you, even though Bush screwed > our Humint > > > > network fro some time to come, we still would have been able > to find > > > > evidence - if believed it was ever there. > > > > But I get it. You really, really, really want to believe > there were > > > > WMD's there. Okay. > > > > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation > state but > > > > again, if you really want to believe it is or was, okay dokey. > > > > > > Talk about wanting to believe lies. > > > > > > I've lost five friends in Iraq. All of them Psy-Ops and a > couple Force > > > > Recon. They've made it clear for years that Iraq will never > appreciate > > > > what we've done and no matter how long we're there, they'll > regress > > > > shortly after we leave. Two thousand years of culture. > > > > Iraq has already made clear they view US as outsiders and > went out of > > > > the way to spit in Bush's face before he could get out of > office. But > > > > you believe what you want to believe. > > > > > > On Jul 18, 7:23 am, jgg1000a <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>> We also had the certainty that there really were no WMD's > > > > > > > Not true. > > > > > > > >>> Urban warfare, their commitment to keep fighting > people they viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any kind of > > > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > > > > > > Once again you show little understanding... Both AQ and the > > > > > Americans are outsiders... As is the harsh form of > Radical Islam... > > > > > As is the lowland Pakistani... The question here is not > fighting the > > > > > outsider BUT WHICH OUTSIDER... The exit strategy? > Stability and a > > > > > non Radical Islamic government in a nuclear nation-state... > > > > > > > >>> I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians > border them. They had easier access and more troops. No success. > Tactics & technology have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been > successful only at blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots > of them. It's a mess > > > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > > > > > > Tactics and technology make a huge difference... As the > fact the our > > > > > WILLINGNESS and desire to be a long term occupying power > is far less > > > > > than the Russians or the Pakistanis as makes a > difference... The > > > > > Russian border aided in supplying their troops but harmed > the "Soft > > > > > Warfare" in being seen a a long term occupying power... > > > > > > > >>> The only upside is at least we're actually going after > people we have truthful cause to go after. > > > > > > > Once again you proclaim Urban Lies... > > > > > > > On Jul 18, 3:58 am, Frederick The Moderate > > > > > > > <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > I agree with you about Iraq. We had so many sanctions on > Iraq before > > > > > > invading, they couldn't import dental equipment (because > it could > > > > > > possibly be modified for weapons use - go figure). We > also had the > > > > > > certainty that there really were no WMD's. So it was > nothing to storm > > > > > > right in. Like you said, cakewalk getting there. It was > afterward the > > > > > > problems started. Urban warfare, their commitment to > keep fighting > > > > > > people they viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of > any kind of > > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. > > > > > > I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians > border them. They > > > > > > had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & > technology > > > > > > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful > only at > > > > > > blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. > It's a mess > > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. > > > > > > The only upside is at least we're actually going after > people we have > > > > > > truthful cause to go after. > > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 11:40 pm, "d.b.baker" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Iraq was [almost] a cake walk, compared to what we face in > > > > > > > Afghanistan. Even with enough troops (500,000 +/-), > it'll take a > > > > > > > generation to pacify Afghanistan - a mountainous > moonscape the size of > > > > > > > Texas covered with 70-million ants (nomads, warring > tribes - barefoot, > > > > > > > illiterate villages). There's nothing there to > "rebuild," it's all > > > > > > > from scratch. The people are suspicious of everything, > even a simple, > > > > > > > local hydro-pump to generate electricity. > > > > > > > > > Then there's Pakistan, blood-brother to Afghanistan; > we'll never > > > > > > > subdue one without subduing the other. And by that > time we'll be > > > > > > > broke, no longer a viable nation - which makes the > whole surge- > > > > > > > strategy a lethal mistake.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Mark M. Kahle, , > www.filacoffee.com <http://www.filacoffee.com> > > >
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