Yes it was and you decided to try a history lesson on me and throw out some "holier than thou" Gringo bullshit
again read the ONLY empiracal repoort done on this http://intelligence.senate.gov/press/record.cfm?id=298775 then choke mon your BS On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:31 PM, dick thompson <[email protected]>wrote: > The subject was AFghanistan and Iraq > > Mark wrote: > > how about the thirty oir so thousand that died in central america in the > same time period at thands of alzheimer ronnie. ?? US forces lead by Felix > Rodriguez (I know, I met him there) > > please read the republican dominated "senate intelligence report" from sept > 2006 that says ALL the info you are trying to feed me now is pure > BULLSHIT.... > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >Thedifference in time from having used and being falsely accused of >> having gas was 25 years..... >> >> Really?LOL! Did the thousands who died wretching deaths come back to >> life in those 25 years? Did Saddam act like he'd become a humanitarian >> in those 25 years? Oh WAIT! Thats right! Saddam insisted that he still >> HAD WMDs. Only when the UN sanctioned him did he say they were >> gone.....supplying no evidence of their disposal, of course. >> >> >as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built >> it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... >> >> ROTFLMAO. You are either a very bad liar or a complete idiot. I think >> both. Bye! >> >> On Jul 18, 3:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I didn't think he ahd gas or wmd's or nukes (though I Knew he was >> > sitting on a research reactor and a mountain of yellow cake) The >> > difference in time from having used and being falsely accused of >> > having gas was 25 years..... >> > >> > as far as building that reactor in Iraq... the US supplied and built >> > it AND donated the yellow cake as well..... You are right the US is a >> > danger even to itself. The only deluded person/people seems to be you >> > and Gringolandia. >> > >> > On Jul 18, 12:07 pm, Zebnick <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > >If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. >> > >> > > We thought he had poison gas. Our soldiers were equipped to confront >> > > it. >> > >> > > Everybody thought he had WMDs, mostly because he not only HAD them but >> > > because he used them against his enemies. >> > >> > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state >> > >> > > Actually, they were. Iraq had completed construction of a nuclear >> > > reactor (That makes you a nuclear nation state) but Israel immediately >> > > blew it up. (Thank you Israel). >> > >> > > Some people would say that a leader who builds a nuclear reactor >> > > despite worldwide protests and has and uses poison gas on neighboring >> > > countries and his own people was a dangerous guy. Other people like >> > > deluding themselves. >> > >> > > On Jul 18, 1:42 pm, Frederick The Moderate >> > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > If there had been WMD, we wouldn't have gone in the way we did. >> Large, >> > > > tight formations are easy targets and we know that. Not to mention >> > > > that we would have sent a least one division to sweep and search the >> > > > area where we "knew" the WMD's were for residual (or any other) >> > > > evidence they ever existed. We never did. Not one peek. I'm former >> > > > navy intel and i can assure you, even though Bush screwed our Humint >> > > > network fro some time to come, we still would have been able to find >> > > > evidence - if believed it was ever there. >> > > > But I get it. You really, really, really want to believe there were >> > > > WMD's there. Okay. >> > >> > > > Oh and btw, Iraq is not now and never was a nuclear nation state but >> > > > again, if you really want to believe it is or was, okay dokey. >> > >> > > > Talk about wanting to believe lies. >> > >> > > > I've lost five friends in Iraq. All of them Psy-Ops and a couple >> Force >> > > > Recon. They've made it clear for years that Iraq will never >> appreciate >> > > > what we've done and no matter how long we're there, they'll regress >> > > > shortly after we leave. Two thousand years of culture. >> > > > Iraq has already made clear they view US as outsiders and went out >> of >> > > > the way to spit in Bush's face before he could get out of office. >> But >> > > > you believe what you want to believe. >> > >> > > > On Jul 18, 7:23 am, jgg1000a <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > >>> We also had the certainty that there really were no WMD's >> > >> > > > > Not true. >> > >> > > > > >>> Urban warfare, their commitment to keep fighting people they >> viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any kind of >> > >> > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. >> > >> > > > > Once again you show little understanding... Both AQ and the >> > > > > Americans are outsiders... As is the harsh form of Radical >> Islam... >> > > > > As is the lowland Pakistani... The question here is not fighting >> the >> > > > > outsider BUT WHICH OUTSIDER... The exit strategy? Stability and >> a >> > > > > non Radical Islamic government in a nuclear nation-state... >> > >> > > > > >>> I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border >> them. They had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & >> technology have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only at >> blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's a mess >> > >> > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. >> > >> > > > > Tactics and technology make a huge difference... As the fact the >> our >> > > > > WILLINGNESS and desire to be a long term occupying power is far >> less >> > > > > than the Russians or the Pakistanis as makes a difference... The >> > > > > Russian border aided in supplying their troops but harmed the >> "Soft >> > > > > Warfare" in being seen a a long term occupying power... >> > >> > > > > >>> The only upside is at least we're actually going after people >> we have truthful cause to go after. >> > >> > > > > Once again you proclaim Urban Lies... >> > >> > > > > On Jul 18, 3:58 am, Frederick The Moderate >> > >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > > I agree with you about Iraq. We had so many sanctions on Iraq >> before >> > > > > > invading, they couldn't import dental equipment (because it >> could >> > > > > > possibly be modified for weapons use - go figure). We also had >> the >> > > > > > certainty that there really were no WMD's. So it was nothing to >> storm >> > > > > > right in. Like you said, cakewalk getting there. It was >> afterward the >> > > > > > problems started. Urban warfare, their commitment to keep >> fighting >> > > > > > people they viewed as invaders, and the complete lack of any >> kind of >> > > > > > exit strategy, created a no-win situation. >> > > > > > I also agree with you on Afghanistan. The Russians border them. >> They >> > > > > > had easier access and more troops. No success. Tactics & >> technology >> > > > > > have done squat for us. Thus far, we've been successful only at >> > > > > > blowing up weddings and killing civilians. Lots of them. It's a >> mess >> > > > > > and a mistake and we should get out. >> > > > > > The only upside is at least we're actually going after people we >> have >> > > > > > truthful cause to go after. >> > >> > > > > > On Jul 17, 11:40 pm, "d.b.baker" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > > > > > Iraq was [almost] a cake walk, compared to what we face in >> > > > > > > Afghanistan. Even with enough troops (500,000 +/-), it'll take >> a >> > > > > > > generation to pacify Afghanistan - a mountainous moonscape the >> size of >> > > > > > > Texas covered with 70-million ants (nomads, warring tribes - >> barefoot, >> > > > > > > illiterate villages). There's nothing there to "rebuild," it's >> all >> > > > > > > from scratch. The people are suspicious of everything, even a >> simple, >> > > > > > > local hydro-pump to generate electricity. >> > >> > > > > > > Then there's Pakistan, blood-brother to Afghanistan; we'll >> never >> > > > > > > subdue one without subduing the other. And by that time we'll >> be >> > > > > > > broke, no longer a viable nation - which makes the whole >> surge- >> > > > > > > strategy a lethal mistake.- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> > >> > > - Show quoted text - >> >> -- >> Mark M. Kahle, , >> www.filacoffee.com >> >> >> > > > -- Mark M. 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