dick,

Thought you guys wanted more transparency from this administration?

On Sep 4, 10:58 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
> strange that they are able to release study notes and curricula on a
> speech but not the speech.  Kinda makes you wonder whether they are
> waiting to see what the fallout on the curricula and study notes is
> before they actually write the speech.
>
>
>
> Hollywood wrote:
> > dick,
>
> > Mentioning something is not the same thing as providing a transcript
> > of the actual speech. That should be obvious.
>
> > On Sep 3, 4:09 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Speech has not been released but in the link I just sent you they
> >> mention it.   There is also a link starting Friday to find out more.  
> >> The link is:
>
> >>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html
>
> >> This is from the Dept of Ed.
>
> >> Hollywood wrote:
>
> >>> dick,
>
> >>> Does anyone have an actual transcript of the actual speech? Please
> >>> post it and let's have an end to all these claims of what the POTUS
> >>> REALLY means.
>
> >>> Politicians usually don't waste campaign speeches on those too young
> >>> to vote, for God's sake.
>
> >>> On Sep 3, 2:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> Got this posting from Jim Miller.  He expresses the point I have been
> >>>> trying to make the Holly if I can get past his failure to interpret what
> >>>> is actually being said.
>
> >>>> *Barack Obama Will Make A Campaign Speech To School Kids Next Week:  *
> >>>> Michael and Diane Medved are not pleased
> >>>> <http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2009/09/02/abusing_schoo...>.
>
> >>>>     My wife Diane seldom gets upset about politics.  But President
> >>>>     Barack Obama's recent demonstration of megalomania in insisting on
> >>>>     beginning the school year by simultaneously addressing all public
> >>>>     school kids in the United States elicited a concise response:  "it's
> >>>>     sick."
>
> >>>>     In addition to her Ph.D. in psychology, Diane holds an M.A. in
> >>>>     Education, and both primary and secondary teaching credentials in
> >>>>     California.  She has raised and educated our three kids, each of
> >>>>     whom received some combination of home schooling, parochial
> >>>>     education, and public schools.  What bothers her (and many
> >>>>     courageous teachers across the country) is the crude attempt by the
> >>>>     Department of Education and the White House to blur all distinctions
> >>>>     between education and cult-of-personality propaganda.
>
> >>>> How do I know it's a campaign speech, since I haven't read it?  By
> >>>> reading the lesson plan
> >>>> <http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama%E2%80%99s-Addres...>.
> >>>>  The worst part of the plan is one of the things the students may be
> >>>> asked to do after the speech:
>
> >>>>     Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the
> >>>>     president.  These would be collected and redistributed at an
> >>>>     appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable
> >>>>     to their goals.
>
> >>>> It is legitimate to ask students what they can do to help the country.
> >>>>  It is not legitimate --- in a republic --- to ask students what they
> >>>> can do to help a particular leader.
>
> >>>> (One thing Obama's team seems to have missed:  This speech to school
> >>>> kids will provide a great straight line for many comedians, and some of
> >>>> those comedians will accept Obama's offer.  If you think of a good one,
> >>>> or hear a good one, let me know about it.)
> >>>> - 2:49 PM, 2 September 2009
> >>>> *The White House* is "clarifying"
> >>>> <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/wh-withdraws-call-stu...>
> >>>> the language in the lesson plan, presumably in order to remove the more
> >>>> political parts.  Most likely, Obama's speech will just be an
> >>>> interruption of school time, not a full-blown campaign speech.
>
> >>>> For amusement, you may want to read about reactions from Democratic
> >>>> leaders in 1991, when President George H. W. Bush made a speech from a
> >>>> school
> >>>> <http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/09/03/flashback-1991-...>.
>
> >>>> A few conservatives have said that they would keep their kids out of
> >>>> school during Obama's speech.   That's silly in my opinion; if there is
> >>>> anything offensive in the speech, it is better to explain that to kids
> >>>> after they hear it.
> >>>> - 11:04 AM, 3 September 2009   [link]
> >>>> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/September2009_1.html#jrm7790>- 
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