Holly,
I stated a fact! You are the one whining and your
comment is like Swiss cheese .
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On Sep 5, 2:29 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sage2.
>
> Ohhhhh, what kind of cheese would you like with your whine?
>
> On Sep 5, 12:39 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Holly,
>
> > Obama and his administration promised " transparency " and we
> > have yet to see any such thing for the past eight months, and I doubt
> > we'll see any for the next forty .
>
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>
> > On Sep 5, 10:12 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > dick,
>
> > > Thought you guys wanted more transparency from this administration?
>
> > > On Sep 4, 10:58 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > strange that they are able to release study notes and curricula on a
> > > > speech but not the speech. Kinda makes you wonder whether they are
> > > > waiting to see what the fallout on the curricula and study notes is
> > > > before they actually write the speech.
>
> > > > Hollywood wrote:
> > > > > dick,
>
> > > > > Mentioning something is not the same thing as providing a transcript
> > > > > of the actual speech. That should be obvious.
>
> > > > > On Sep 3, 4:09 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >> Speech has not been released but in the link I just sent you they
> > > > >> mention it. There is also a link starting Friday to find out more.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The link is:
>
> > > > >>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html
>
> > > > >> This is from the Dept of Ed.
>
> > > > >> Hollywood wrote:
>
> > > > >>> dick,
>
> > > > >>> Does anyone have an actual transcript of the actual speech? Please
> > > > >>> post it and let's have an end to all these claims of what the POTUS
> > > > >>> REALLY means.
>
> > > > >>> Politicians usually don't waste campaign speeches on those too young
> > > > >>> to vote, for God's sake.
>
> > > > >>> On Sep 3, 2:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> Got this posting from Jim Miller. He expresses the point I have
> > > > >>>> been
> > > > >>>> trying to make the Holly if I can get past his failure to
> > > > >>>> interpret what
> > > > >>>> is actually being said.
>
> > > > >>>> *Barack Obama Will Make A Campaign Speech To School Kids Next
> > > > >>>> Week: *
> > > > >>>> Michael and Diane Medved are not pleased
> > > > >>>> <http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2009/09/02/abusing_schoo...>.
>
> > > > >>>> My wife Diane seldom gets upset about politics. But President
> > > > >>>> Barack Obama's recent demonstration of megalomania in
> > > > >>>> insisting on
> > > > >>>> beginning the school year by simultaneously addressing all
> > > > >>>> public
> > > > >>>> school kids in the United States elicited a concise response:
> > > > >>>> "it's
> > > > >>>> sick."
>
> > > > >>>> In addition to her Ph.D. in psychology, Diane holds an M.A. in
> > > > >>>> Education, and both primary and secondary teaching credentials
> > > > >>>> in
> > > > >>>> California. She has raised and educated our three kids, each
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> whom received some combination of home schooling, parochial
> > > > >>>> education, and public schools. What bothers her (and many
> > > > >>>> courageous teachers across the country) is the crude attempt
> > > > >>>> by the
> > > > >>>> Department of Education and the White House to blur all
> > > > >>>> distinctions
> > > > >>>> between education and cult-of-personality propaganda.
>
> > > > >>>> How do I know it's a campaign speech, since I haven't read it? By
> > > > >>>> reading the lesson plan
> > > > >>>> <http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama%E2%80%99s-Addres...>.
> > > > >>>> The worst part of the plan is one of the things the students may
> > > > >>>> be
> > > > >>>> asked to do after the speech:
>
> > > > >>>> Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the
> > > > >>>> president. These would be collected and redistributed at an
> > > > >>>> appropriate later date by the teacher to make students
> > > > >>>> accountable
> > > > >>>> to their goals.
>
> > > > >>>> It is legitimate to ask students what they can do to help the
> > > > >>>> country.
> > > > >>>> It is not legitimate --- in a republic --- to ask students what
> > > > >>>> they
> > > > >>>> can do to help a particular leader.
>
> > > > >>>> (One thing Obama's team seems to have missed: This speech to
> > > > >>>> school
> > > > >>>> kids will provide a great straight line for many comedians, and
> > > > >>>> some of
> > > > >>>> those comedians will accept Obama's offer. If you think of a good
> > > > >>>> one,
> > > > >>>> or hear a good one, let me know about it.)
> > > > >>>> - 2:49 PM, 2 September 2009
> > > > >>>> *The White House* is "clarifying"
> > > > >>>> <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/wh-withdraws-call-stu...>
> > > > >>>> the language in the lesson plan, presumably in order to remove the
> > > > >>>> more
> > > > >>>> political parts. Most likely, Obama's speech will just be an
> > > > >>>> interruption of school time, not a full-blown campaign speech.
>
> > > > >>>> For amusement, you may want to read about reactions from Democratic
> > > > >>>> leaders in 1991, when President George H. W. Bush made a speech
> > > > >>>> from a
> > > > >>>> school
> > > > >>>> <http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/09/03/flashback-1991-...>.
>
> > > > >>>> A few conservatives have said that they would keep their kids out
> > > > >>>> of
> > > > >>>> school during Obama's speech. That's silly in my opinion; if
> > > > >>>> there is
> > > > >>>> anything offensive in the speech, it is better to explain that to
> > > > >>>> kids
> > > > >>>> after they hear it.
> > > > >>>> - 11:04 AM, 3 September 2009 [link]
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