Sage2, Boo-fucking-hoo.
On Sep 5, 8:14 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Holly, > > I stated a fact! You are the one whining and your > comment is like Swiss cheese . > > ************************************************************************************ > > On Sep 5, 2:29 pm, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Sage2. > > > Ohhhhh, what kind of cheese would you like with your whine? > > > On Sep 5, 12:39 pm, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Holly, > > > > Obama and his administration promised " transparency " and we > > > have yet to see any such thing for the past eight months, and I doubt > > > we'll see any for the next forty . > > > > ***************************************************************************************************************** > > > > On Sep 5, 10:12 am, Hollywood <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > dick, > > > > > Thought you guys wanted more transparency from this administration? > > > > > On Sep 4, 10:58 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > strange that they are able to release study notes and curricula on a > > > > > speech but not the speech. Kinda makes you wonder whether they are > > > > > waiting to see what the fallout on the curricula and study notes is > > > > > before they actually write the speech. > > > > > > Hollywood wrote: > > > > > > dick, > > > > > > > Mentioning something is not the same thing as providing a transcript > > > > > > of the actual speech. That should be obvious. > > > > > > > On Sep 3, 4:09 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >> Speech has not been released but in the link I just sent you they > > > > > >> mention it. There is also a link starting Friday to find out > > > > > >> more. > > > > > >> The link is: > > > > > > >>http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html > > > > > > >> This is from the Dept of Ed. > > > > > > >> Hollywood wrote: > > > > > > >>> dick, > > > > > > >>> Does anyone have an actual transcript of the actual speech? Please > > > > > >>> post it and let's have an end to all these claims of what the > > > > > >>> POTUS > > > > > >>> REALLY means. > > > > > > >>> Politicians usually don't waste campaign speeches on those too > > > > > >>> young > > > > > >>> to vote, for God's sake. > > > > > > >>> On Sep 3, 2:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > >>>> Got this posting from Jim Miller. He expresses the point I have > > > > > >>>> been > > > > > >>>> trying to make the Holly if I can get past his failure to > > > > > >>>> interpret what > > > > > >>>> is actually being said. > > > > > > >>>> *Barack Obama Will Make A Campaign Speech To School Kids Next > > > > > >>>> Week: * > > > > > >>>> Michael and Diane Medved are not pleased > > > > > >>>> <http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2009/09/02/abusing_schoo...>. > > > > > > >>>> My wife Diane seldom gets upset about politics. But > > > > > >>>> President > > > > > >>>> Barack Obama's recent demonstration of megalomania in > > > > > >>>> insisting on > > > > > >>>> beginning the school year by simultaneously addressing all > > > > > >>>> public > > > > > >>>> school kids in the United States elicited a concise > > > > > >>>> response: "it's > > > > > >>>> sick." > > > > > > >>>> In addition to her Ph.D. in psychology, Diane holds an M.A. > > > > > >>>> in > > > > > >>>> Education, and both primary and secondary teaching > > > > > >>>> credentials in > > > > > >>>> California. She has raised and educated our three kids, > > > > > >>>> each of > > > > > >>>> whom received some combination of home schooling, parochial > > > > > >>>> education, and public schools. What bothers her (and many > > > > > >>>> courageous teachers across the country) is the crude attempt > > > > > >>>> by the > > > > > >>>> Department of Education and the White House to blur all > > > > > >>>> distinctions > > > > > >>>> between education and cult-of-personality propaganda. > > > > > > >>>> How do I know it's a campaign speech, since I haven't read it? > > > > > >>>> By > > > > > >>>> reading the lesson plan > > > > > >>>> <http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Obama%E2%80%99s-Addres...>. > > > > > >>>> The worst part of the plan is one of the things the students > > > > > >>>> may be > > > > > >>>> asked to do after the speech: > > > > > > >>>> Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > >>>> president. These would be collected and redistributed at an > > > > > >>>> appropriate later date by the teacher to make students > > > > > >>>> accountable > > > > > >>>> to their goals. > > > > > > >>>> It is legitimate to ask students what they can do to help the > > > > > >>>> country. > > > > > >>>> It is not legitimate --- in a republic --- to ask students what > > > > > >>>> they > > > > > >>>> can do to help a particular leader. > > > > > > >>>> (One thing Obama's team seems to have missed: This speech to > > > > > >>>> school > > > > > >>>> kids will provide a great straight line for many comedians, and > > > > > >>>> some of > > > > > >>>> those comedians will accept Obama's offer. If you think of a > > > > > >>>> good one, > > > > > >>>> or hear a good one, let me know about it.) > > > > > >>>> - 2:49 PM, 2 September 2009 > > > > > >>>> *The White House* is "clarifying" > > > > > >>>> <http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/02/wh-withdraws-call-stu...> > > > > > >>>> the language in the lesson plan, presumably in order to remove > > > > > >>>> the more > > > > > >>>> political parts. Most likely, Obama's speech will just be an > > > > > >>>> interruption of school time, not a full-blown campaign speech. > > > > > > >>>> For amusement, you may want to read about reactions from > > > > > >>>> Democratic > > > > > >>>> leaders in 1991, when President George H. W. Bush made a speech > > > > > >>>> from a > > > > > >>>> school > > > > > >>>> <http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/09/03/flashback-1991-...>. > > > > > > >>>> A few conservatives have said that they would keep their kids > > > > > >>>> out of > > > > > >>>> school during Obama's speech. That's silly in my opinion; if > > > > > >>>> there is > > > > > >>>> anything offensive in the speech, it is better to explain that > > > > > >>>> to kids > > > > > >>>> after they hear it. > > > > > >>>> - 11:04 AM, 3 September 2009 [link] > > > > > >>>> <http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/September2009_1.html#jrm7790>- > > > > > >>>> Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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