LimboIndo
These were not reforms MJ.
<snip>
MJ
Now you want to pretend A is something else.
You either lack the basis upon which to have a reasoned
discussion OR are feigning such ignorance. Government
has continuously intervened and 'reformed' health care just
as they have just about everything else. When the failures
then occur ... *anything* other than the Government's
intervention is at fault ... awaiting the NEXT perpetual
Government 'reform'. You want to pretend that THIS 'reform'
is somehow an exception.
LimboIndo
And what is this about "mob rule?" Can you name a better
system of Government than Democracy?
MJ
Yes.
LimboIndo
Theoretically Democractic Governments are controlled
by the people of the state. This does not always occur in
practice but it does not mean the ideology is flawed, it
just means the system is not perfect.
MJ
Bullshit.
The US Government is controlled by a duopoly of
Pull Pedllers ... peddling the pull of government in
order to maintain their power.
Regard$,
--MJ
Except in the sacred texts of democracy and in the incantations of
orators, we hardly take the trouble to pretend that the rule of the
majority is not at bottom a rule of force. What other virtue can
there be in fifty-one percent except the brute fact that fifty-one
is more than forty-nine? The rule of fifty-one per cent is a
convenience, it is for certain matters a satisfactory political
device, it is for others the lesser of two evils, and for others it
is acceptable because we do not know any less troublesome method of
obtaining a political decision. But it may easily become an absurd
tyranny if we regard it worshipfully, as though it were more than a
political device. We have lost all sense of its true meaning when
we imagine that the opinion of fifty-one per cent is in some high
fashion the true opinion of the whole hundred per cent, or indulge
in the sophistry that the rule of a majority is based upon the ultimate
equality of man. -- Walter Lippmann
>On Oct 1, 1:50 pm, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > LimboIndo
> > What reforms have Government instituted thus far? This is the first
> > proposal of a major (emphasis major)reform of health care instituted
> > by the Government that has ever been proposed, to my knowledge.
> > MJ
> > ROTFLMAO
> > It began by cartelization with the AMA ... then there was the
> > FDA .... in the 1960s there was Medicare followed by
> > Medicaid ... in the 1970s there were HMOs ... the list is endless
> > AND those are merely the 'programs' and NOT the endless
> > interventions.
> >
> > LimboIndo
> > In response to the snippet about socialist, government etc...
> > It would appear Mr. Bastiat confuses a Democratic Society and any
> > other Society. In Democracy the people are the government.
> > MJ
> > <sigh>
> > Democracy is mob rule.
> > The 'People' are no more the government than with a monarchy.
> >
> > Regard$,
> > --MJ
> >
> > Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs,
> > confuses the distinction between government and society.
> > As a result of this, every time we object to a thing
> > being done by government, the socialists conclude that
> > we object to its being done at all. -- Frédéric Bastiat
>
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