Where are you getting these figures plain? 200 years seems an absurd
measurement. What qualifies a civilization as "great?"



On Oct 1, 2:56 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you name a better system of
> Government than Democracy?
> ---
> A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can
> only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves
> largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority
> always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the
> public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over
> loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the
> world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
> Which of course sounds an awful lot like a quote attributed to Ben
> Franklin,
> When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald
> the end of the republic.
> Lots of great advice all pointing towards fiscal responsibility and
> the need for limited federal government.
>
> side note - those who are trying to give or force democracy on the ME
> are waisting their time and our taxes
>
> On Oct 1, 2:46 pm, LimboIndo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > These were not reforms MJ. The AMA, is that a Government orginization?
> > And the FDA was established to regulate an unregulated portion of our
> > infrastructure, not reform it. Medicare and Medicaid stand as two
> > possible selection, though they did have an effect on the health care
> > of a large percentage of the population.
>
> > I didn't say there had been no reforms, I said no major reforms until
> > this one. This reform has the potential to affect all people in this
> > country, nothing this large has ever been attempted.
>
> > And what is this about "mob rule?" Can you name a better system of
> > Government than Democracy? Theoretically Democractic Governments are
> > controlled by the people of the state. This does not always occur in
> > practice but it does not mean the ideology is flawed, it just means
> > the system is not perfect.
>
> > On Oct 1, 1:50 pm, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > LimboIndo
> > >     What reforms have Government instituted thus far? This is the first
> > >     proposal of a major (emphasis major)reform of health care instituted
> > >     by the Government that has ever been proposed, to my knowledge.
> > > MJ
> > > ROTFLMAO
> > > It began by cartelization with the AMA ... then there was the
> > > FDA .... in the 1960s there was Medicare followed by
> > > Medicaid ... in the 1970s there were HMOs ... the list  is endless
> > > AND those are merely the 'programs' and NOT the endless
> > > interventions.
>
> > > LimboIndo
> > >     In response to the snippet about socialist, government etc...
> > >     It would appear Mr. Bastiat confuses a Democratic Society and any
> > >     other Society. In Democracy the people are the government.
> > > MJ
> > > <sigh>
> > > Democracy is mob rule.
> > > The 'People' are no more the government than with a monarchy.
>
> > > Regard$,
> > > --MJ
>
> > > Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs,
> > > confuses the distinction between government and society.
> > > As a result of this, every time we object to a thing
> > > being done by government, the socialists conclude that
> > > we object to its being done at all.   -- Frédéric Bastiat- Hide quoted 
> > > text -
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