good point the point is that (imo) democracy is not the best system
On Oct 1, 7:50 pm, LimboIndo <[email protected]> wrote: > Where are you getting these figures plain? 200 years seems an absurd > measurement. What qualifies a civilization as "great?" > > On Oct 1, 2:56 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Can you name a better system of > > Government than Democracy? > > --- > > A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can > > only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves > > largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority > > always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the > > public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over > > loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the > > world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. > > Which of course sounds an awful lot like a quote attributed to Ben > > Franklin, > > When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald > > the end of the republic. > > Lots of great advice all pointing towards fiscal responsibility and > > the need for limited federal government. > > > side note - those who are trying to give or force democracy on the ME > > are waisting their time and our taxes > > > On Oct 1, 2:46 pm, LimboIndo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > These were not reforms MJ. The AMA, is that a Government orginization? > > > And the FDA was established to regulate an unregulated portion of our > > > infrastructure, not reform it. Medicare and Medicaid stand as two > > > possible selection, though they did have an effect on the health care > > > of a large percentage of the population. > > > > I didn't say there had been no reforms, I said no major reforms until > > > this one. This reform has the potential to affect all people in this > > > country, nothing this large has ever been attempted. > > > > And what is this about "mob rule?" Can you name a better system of > > > Government than Democracy? Theoretically Democractic Governments are > > > controlled by the people of the state. This does not always occur in > > > practice but it does not mean the ideology is flawed, it just means > > > the system is not perfect. > > > > On Oct 1, 1:50 pm, "M. Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > LimboIndo > > > > What reforms have Government instituted thus far? This is the first > > > > proposal of a major (emphasis major)reform of health care instituted > > > > by the Government that has ever been proposed, to my knowledge. > > > > MJ > > > > ROTFLMAO > > > > It began by cartelization with the AMA ... then there was the > > > > FDA .... in the 1960s there was Medicare followed by > > > > Medicaid ... in the 1970s there were HMOs ... the list is endless > > > > AND those are merely the 'programs' and NOT the endless > > > > interventions. > > > > > LimboIndo > > > > In response to the snippet about socialist, government etc... > > > > It would appear Mr. Bastiat confuses a Democratic Society and any > > > > other Society. In Democracy the people are the government. > > > > MJ > > > > <sigh> > > > > Democracy is mob rule. > > > > The 'People' are no more the government than with a monarchy. > > > > > Regard$, > > > > --MJ > > > > > Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, > > > > confuses the distinction between government and society. > > > > As a result of this, every time we object to a thing > > > > being done by government, the socialists conclude that > > > > we object to its being done at all. -- Frédéric Bastiat- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
