I will note that the abortion provision in the bill has not even been mentioned 
here to my knowledge.  Dirty Harry put too much junk in the trunk.  Fail.

CW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Keith In Tampa 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 03:54
Subject: Re: Pentagon Wants Delay on DADT Repeal


This Bill was a failed attempt by Democrats  to make points with their 
constituency.   When you look at the Bill, the purported, "Dream Act" was also 
attached in this proposed legislation, which is nothing less than amnesty for 
illegal aliens.  


 
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 3:42 PM, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

      And based on most of what they tried to obstruct speaking No was the 
right thing to do.   Look at the terrible legislation that has been passed with 
people voting for the bills with no idea as to what was even in the bill.   In 
fact the Speaker claimed that you needed to pass the bill to find out what was 
in it.   As we found with the 1099 brouhaha and the Dems who claimed they did 
not even know it was there we can see who is voting without any idea of what 
they are voting for.   Is that really why you vote for someone?  to have them 
vote without any idea of what is in the bill?   I will take no over that vote 
any time. 


  On 09/21/2010 03:30 PM, Tommy News wrote: 
    The Grand Obstructionist Party of No has Spoken! 


    On 9/21/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: 
          Getting more and more pitiful.   You have to vote as I want you to or 
else you are a Nazi, a Fascist - of course the Nazis and Fascists are leftists 
but that doesn't seem to enter the equation.   I guess anyone who does not 
agree with Tommy News is not allowed to have an opinion and vote that way. 


      On 09/21/2010 03:22 PM, Tommy News wrote: 
        The Facist Nazi GOP Senators Just Voted to keep Don't Ask Don't Tell in 
place. 

        The Grand Obstructionist Party of No has Spoken! 

         
        On 9/21/10, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: 
          Pitiful!! 


          On 09/21/2010 12:55 PM, Tommy News wrote: 
            Republicans are Fascist Nazis. 


            On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: 



              On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Tommy News 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                I am out of time and I will waste no more of it on this today. 
                Democrats are not Marxists, Communists, or Socialists.

                You are mistaken. 






                 
                On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: 
                  Hey Tom,  since you seem to have a little time on your hands 
this afternoon:

                  Here is a post by Travis from yesterday, which is captioned, 
"Communist Goals - 1963 Congressional Record.   In the Congressional Record,  
an excerpt from, "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen is read and quoted.

                  Why don't you take the time to see how your Senators compare 
to this track record?   How many of the current Democrats have supported the 
tenets and platform from this excerpt in 1963?   I bet it would shock you to 
learn the truth.

                  
http://groups.google.com/group/politicalforum/browse_thread/thread/bbc1dd23fc80d8c1#
                   
                  On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Tommy News 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    Wrong again.
                    Democrats are not Marxists.

                    Calling them such is not the truth, it is false slander.

                     
                    On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: 
                      On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Tommy News 
<[email protected]> wrote:
                      Democrats are not Marxists. 

                      That is as offensive as calling Republicans "Grand 
Oppressive Party Rethugicans" and Tea Partiers "Teabaggers". 

                      ======================

                      Which you do, at every opportunity that you get.   There 
is a distinction however,   Those who I identify as "Marxists"  have a track 
record of their votes and policies. 

                      Sometimes the truth hurts Tom, but when politicians vote 
in a Marxist fashion, what else would one call them?





                         
                        On 9/21/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> 
wrote: 
                          No Tom, you're missing the real issue here, blinded 
by some secondary issue.   

                          First, the Pentagon should have every right to review 
and determine how repeal of DADT will effect the military.  Second, and more 
importantly, the goal by the Marxists is to lock the Republicans out of 
amending the proposed Defense  Appropriations bill now before the Congress.  I 
don't trust the likes of Chuck Schumer, Barney Frank, and a host of other 
Marxists controlling the vote over Defense Appropriations.  You shouldn't 
either.

                           From CNN:

                          
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/09/20/senate.defense.bill/index.html
                           
                          But in a statement issued Monday night, Senator Susan 
Collins  (Confused, Maine)  said she would side with the rest of the GOP 
because the Democratic leadership of the Senate "intends to shut Republicans 
out of the debate."

                          Collins said she agreed with the chairman of the 
Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, that the law is "simply not fair." But 
she said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, should give Republicans 
and Democrats "an equal opportunity" to offer amendments to the defense bill.

                          "Now is not the time to play politics, and I again 
call on the majority leader to work with Republican leaders to negotiate an 
agreement so that the Senate can debate the defense bill this week," Collins 
said.

                          In a separate statement, Snowe also indicated she 
would support a Republican filibuster, saying the chamber should be allowed a 
full debate on the measure. Snowe also questioned why the Senate would vote on 
repeal before the military has completed its review.

                          "We should all have the opportunity to review that 
report which is to be completed on December 1, as we reevaluate this policy and 
the implementation of any new changes," Snowe's statement said.

                          The defense authorization act, which is a broad 
defense policy bill, would not rescind "don't ask, don't tell" until after the 
Pentagon completes a review of the repeal's impact on the military. The review 
is due in December and would serve as the basis for necessary certification by 
the president, defense secretary and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff that 
the military could handle repealing the policy.


                           
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