Another buzz word from the Pelosi/Reid/Obama camp:  "Fair"; as in, I think
we should change the regulation because it is fair, not because I think it
will help the economy".

Yes, Tom,  I have a BA in political science.  I am not naive, and I am quite
aware of what the terms Marxist, Socialist,  and Capitalist  means, as well
as the teachings of Trotsky, Engels, Mao, and a host of other "Fair Minded
Collectivists".....




On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Ashley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy?
>
> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two systems
> of government you think we should follow being silly?
>
> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe
> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it.
>
> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you prefer
> being called a collectivist.
>
>  *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, or
> characteristic of, collectivism.*
> *
>
> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be owned by
> society collectively or as a whole; communism.
>
>
> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>
> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive
> question?
>
> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist.
>
> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either.
>
> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Should have read:
>
> Tommy,
>
> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we
> should follow?
>
>     1. A system in which the means of production and distribution are
>     privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to
>     the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market.
>
>     2. A system of social organization in which the means of producing
>     and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized
>     government that often plans and controls the economy.
>
>
> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>
> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you
> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals,
> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not.
>
> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible.
>
> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.
> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and repetitive.
>
> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are
> anti-American.
>
> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>
> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism,
> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech" by
> calling an individual a "Socialist";  because he advocates a socialistic
> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market economy,
> are
> ignorant.
>
> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it.  Actually, I
> have a
> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American.  They are
> dangerous to our Nation.   I have come to the conclusion that these
> folks
> fall into one of two categories:
>
> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read.   They
> don't
> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased
> mainstream
> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites,  never taking the
> time
> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or  came to be, or the
> root
> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue.  They tend to
> believe
> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to realize
> that
> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative
> contribute far more money&  resources to charitable causes.  Further,
> (and
> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of knowledge
> of
> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals and
> tenets
> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, bar
> none.  In general, these people reject the notion that our founding
> fathers
> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do
> understand
> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one
> important
> aspect.  Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or,
>
> (B)  They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the United
> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth world
> Nation-State.
>
> There is literally no other option.
>
> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and filled
> with hate.  When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts, all
> they
> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far
> left,
> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the George
> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks.
> All
> they can do, is attack the messenger.
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]> 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies.
>
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