Then why do you keep calling the President and Democrats "Marxist", falsely, over and over again? You should know better than to swing that false smear bully club.
On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Another buzz word from the Pelosi/Reid/Obama camp: "Fair"; as in, I think > we should change the regulation because it is fair, not because I think it > will help the economy". > > Yes, Tom, I have a BA in political science. I am not naive, and I am quite > aware of what the terms Marxist, Socialist, and Capitalist means, as well > as the teachings of Trotsky, Engels, Mao, and a host of other "Fair Minded > Collectivists"..... > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Ashley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? >> >> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two >> systems >> of government you think we should follow being silly? >> >> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe >> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. >> >> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you prefer >> being called a collectivist. >> >> *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, or >> characteristic of, collectivism.* >> * >> >> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be owned by >> society collectively or as a whole; communism. >> >> >> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive >> question? >> >> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. >> >> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Should have read: >> >> Tommy, >> >> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we >> should follow? >> >> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution are >> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to >> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free market. >> >> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of producing >> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized >> government that often plans and controls the economy. >> >> >> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you >> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, >> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. >> >> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible. >> >> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists. >> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and repetitive. >> >> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are >> anti-American. >> >> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism, >> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech" by >> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a socialistic >> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market economy, >> are >> ignorant. >> >> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, I >> have a >> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They are >> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these >> folks >> fall into one of two categories: >> >> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They >> don't >> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased >> mainstream >> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking the >> time >> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or the >> root >> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to >> believe >> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to realize >> that >> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative >> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. Further, >> (and >> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of knowledge >> of >> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals and >> tenets >> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, bar >> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding >> fathers >> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do >> understand >> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one >> important >> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, >> >> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the United >> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth world >> Nation-State. >> >> There is literally no other option. >> >> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and filled >> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts, all >> they >> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far >> left, >> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the George >> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks. >> All >> they can do, is attack the messenger. >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]> >> <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies. >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. 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