False. Wrong again. On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Jonathan, and had to go back and re-read your post Tommy. The > words are NOT interchangable! > > It is a misconception to say that we live in a Democracy. Back as late as > the 1930s and 1940s, it was made clear in textbooks, that a democracy was > not necessarily a good thing; that the Soviet Union and the Chinese had > forms of democracy. That Americans live in a republic, where those elected > by the people represent our interests. > > Intentinal or a coincidence that the term "democracy" slips off of those > with a far left agenda these days? > > I dunno. > > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let me remind you of the use of semantics and shades of meaning yet again. >> >> In the recent Texas Schoolbook controversy, the books were revised to >> exclude the words "Democrat" Democracy", and replace those words with >> "Republican" and "Republic". >> The terms are interchangeable, but not in the small minds of some who >> fail to comprehend their shades of meaning and etymological >> provinance. >> >> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> > But you realize that we live in a republican form of government don't >> > you >> > Tom? We don't live in a democracy in the literal sense. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> I am not dodging the question. >> >> >> >> >> >> I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that >> >> statement. >> >> I believe in Democracy. I am an American. >> >> >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? >> >> > >> >> > You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two >> >> > systems of government you think we should follow being silly? >> >> > >> >> > The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to >> believe >> >> > you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. >> >> > >> >> > Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you >> >> > prefer being called a collectivist. >> >> > >> >> > *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating >> >> > to, >> >> > or characteristic of, collectivism.* >> >> > * >> >> > >> >> > *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be >> >> > owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> >> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously >> offensive >> >> >> question? >> >> >> >> >> >> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. >> >> >> >> >> >> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> Should have read: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Tommy, >> >> >>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we >> >> >>>> should follow? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution >> >> >>>> are >> >> >>>> privately or corporately owned and development is >> proportionate >> >> to >> >> >>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free >> >> >>>> market. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of >> >> producing >> >> >>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a >> centralized >> >> >>>> government that often plans and controls the economy. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> >>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you >> >> >>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, >> >> >>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is >> >> >>>>> possible. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or >> Communists. >> >> >>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and >> >> >>>>> repetitive. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are >> >> >>>>> anti-American. >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, >> >> >>>>>> Socialism, >> >> >>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate >> >> >>>>>> speech" >> >> >>>>>> by >> >> >>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a >> >> >>>>>> socialistic >> >> >>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market >> >> >>>>>> economy, >> >> >>>>>> are >> >> >>>>>> ignorant. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. >> Actually, >> >> I >> >> >>>>>> have a >> >> >>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. >> They >> >> >>>>>> are >> >> >>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that >> these >> >> >>>>>> folks >> >> >>>>>> fall into one of two categories: >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. >> They >> >> >>>>>> don't >> >> >>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased >> >> >>>>>> mainstream >> >> >>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never >> taking >> >> >>>>>> the >> >> >>>>>> time >> >> >>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, >> or >> >> the >> >> >>>>>> root >> >> >>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend >> to >> >> >>>>>> believe >> >> >>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to >> >> realize >> >> >>>>>> that >> >> >>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are >> conservative >> >> >>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. >> >> Further, >> >> >>>>>> (and >> >> >>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of >> >> >>>>>> knowledge >> >> >>>>>> of >> >> >>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the >> >> >>>>>> principals >> >> and >> >> >>>>>> tenets >> >> >>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the >> World, >> >> >>>>>> bar >> >> >>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our >> founding >> >> >>>>>> fathers >> >> >>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do >> >> >>>>>> understand >> >> >>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one >> >> >>>>>> important >> >> >>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the >> >> >>>>>> United >> >> >>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or >> >> >>>>>> fourth >> >> >>>>>> world >> >> >>>>>> Nation-State. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> There is literally no other option. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, >> >> >>>>>> and >> >> >>>>>> filled >> >> >>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic >> facts, >> >> >>>>>> all >> >> >>>>>> they >> >> >>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical >> >> >>>>>> far >> >> >>>>>> left, >> >> >>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the >> >> >>>>>> George >> >> >>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social >> networks. >> >> >>>>>> All >> >> >>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News< >> [email protected]> >> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies. >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> -- >> >> >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> >>>>>> For options& help seehttp:// >> >> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> * Visit our other community >> >> >>>>>> athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> <http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >> >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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What >> >> >>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior >> >> >>> public relations." >> >> >>> - Marc Stevens >> >> >>> >> >> >>> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something >> that >> >> >>> cannot be." >> >> >>> - Thomas Jefferson**** >> >> >>> >> >> >>> -- >> >> >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> >>> For options& help see >> http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>> >> >> >>> * Visit our other community at >> >> >>> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/>< >> http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >> >>> * It's active and moderated. 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What >> >> > separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior >> >> > public relations." >> >> > - Marc Stevens >> >> > >> >> > "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something >> >> > that >> >> > cannot be." >> >> > - Thomas Jefferson**** >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> > >> >> > * Visit our other community at >> >> > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/>< >> http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >> > * It's active and moderated. 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