On Oct 20, 11:24 am, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not dodging the question. > > I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that statement. > I believe in Democracy. I am an American. > > On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tommy,
The USA is NOT a Democracy. > > > > > > > > Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? > > > You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two > > systems of government you think we should follow being silly? > > > The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe > > you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. > > > Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you > > prefer being called a collectivist. > > > *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to, > > or characteristic of, collectivism.* > > * > > > *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be > > owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism. > > > On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: > >> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive > >> question? > > >> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. > > >> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. > > >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: > >>> Should have read: > > >>> Tommy, > >>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we > >>>> should follow? > > >>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution are > >>>> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to > >>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free > >>>> market. > > >>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of producing > >>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized > >>>> government that often plans and controls the economy. > > >>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: > >>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you > >>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, > >>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. > > >>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible. > > >>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists. > >>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and > >>>>> repetitive. > > >>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are > >>>>> anti-American. > > >>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism, > >>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech" > >>>>>> by > >>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a > >>>>>> socialistic > >>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market > >>>>>> economy, > >>>>>> are > >>>>>> ignorant. > > >>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, I > >>>>>> have a > >>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They > >>>>>> are > >>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these > >>>>>> folks > >>>>>> fall into one of two categories: > > >>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They > >>>>>> don't > >>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased > >>>>>> mainstream > >>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> time > >>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or the > >>>>>> root > >>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to > >>>>>> believe > >>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to realize > >>>>>> that > >>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative > >>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. Further, > >>>>>> (and > >>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of > >>>>>> knowledge > >>>>>> of > >>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals and > >>>>>> tenets > >>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World, > >>>>>> bar > >>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding > >>>>>> fathers > >>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do > >>>>>> understand > >>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one > >>>>>> important > >>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, > > >>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the > >>>>>> United > >>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth > >>>>>> world > >>>>>> Nation-State. > > >>>>>> There is literally no other option. > > >>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and > >>>>>> filled > >>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts, > >>>>>> all > >>>>>> they > >>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far > >>>>>> left, > >>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the > >>>>>> George > >>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks. > >>>>>> All > >>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger. > > >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies. > > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >>>>>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >>>>>> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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What > >>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior > >>> public relations." > >>> - Marc Stevens > > >>> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that > >>> cannot be." > >>> - Thomas Jefferson**** > > >>> -- > >>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >>> For options& help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > >>> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > >>> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > >>> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > > -- > > *Your Remedy Is In The Courts Jurisdictionary® > > <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004>* > > > *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal > > Government* > >http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html > > > *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure. > > > *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be > > governed are weak.* > > > *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really > > happening. What > > separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior > > public relations." > > - Marc Stevens > > > "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that > > cannot be." > > - Thomas Jefferson**** > > > -- > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > > -- > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. > Have a great day, > Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
