I was quoting Keith's article, Dick.
On 10/20/10, dick <[email protected]> wrote: > You lost it all in the first sentence. Republicans are not the ones who > are trying to control. The Democrats attempt to rule in a fair > Democracy? Since when. Democrats try to control you so that you have > to accept their choice or you lose your job, your insurance, your home, > your family, access to the education you want - no end to the > controlling that the Democrats attempt. Your whole posting here is an > absolute lie. You Dems even want to control how people retire!! > > On 10/20/2010 02:22 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> So, then in other words, >> Republicans, whose purpose is to control, are like Facists. Their >> purpose is to control The Majority strictly, as well as all others >> among the people. >> >> Democrats, whose purpose is to rule In a fair Democracy, and any group >> of Individuals composing any Minority, have no protection against the >> unlimited power of The Majority, and therefore must keep the >> Republicans from taking control of the government again in order to >> protect themselves from unlimited power of facist Republicans. >> >> Corporate greed, absolute control, and absoulute power is Republican. >> >> Justice, well being, liberty, the persuit of happiness, and fair >> representation by and for individuals is Democratic. >> >> Gotta love it. >> >> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anyone following this thread can see you are dodging the question. >>> >>> You have spent a considerable amount of time doing so. >>> >>> So based on your refusal to answer the question, and, based on your >>> assertion that it was a baited question, I can only conclude that you >>> are a closet socialist. >>> >>> On 10/20/2010 10:47 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>> >>>> No, I am not. >>>> >>>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Of course you're dodging the question. >>>>> >>>>> It's not like I was asking you for a 15-page dissertation on your >>>>> beliefs. I simply asked you to chose between two brief descriptions of >>>>> two types of governments. >>>>> >>>>> On 10/20/2010 10:24 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am not dodging the question. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that >>>>>> statement. >>>>>> I believe in Democracy. I am an American. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two >>>>>>> systems of government you think we should follow being silly? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to >>>>>>> believe >>>>>>> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you >>>>>>> prefer being called a collectivist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating >>>>>>> to, >>>>>>> or characteristic of, collectivism.* >>>>>>> * >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously >>>>>>>> offensive >>>>>>>> question? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Should have read: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tommy, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we >>>>>>>>>> should follow? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and >>>>>>>>>> distribution >>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> privately or corporately owned and development is >>>>>>>>>> proportionate >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a >>>>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>>>> market. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of >>>>>>>>>> producing >>>>>>>>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a >>>>>>>>>> centralized >>>>>>>>>> government that often plans and controls the economy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you >>>>>>>>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals, >>>>>>>>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is >>>>>>>>>>> possible. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or >>>>>>>>>>> Communists. >>>>>>>>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and >>>>>>>>>>> repetitive. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are >>>>>>>>>>> anti-American. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, >>>>>>>>>>>> Socialism, >>>>>>>>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate >>>>>>>>>>>> speech" >>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a >>>>>>>>>>>> socialistic >>>>>>>>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market >>>>>>>>>>>> economy, >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. >>>>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that >>>>>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>>>>> folks >>>>>>>>>>>> fall into one of two categories: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. >>>>>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased >>>>>>>>>>>> mainstream >>>>>>>>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never >>>>>>>>>>>> taking >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, >>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> root >>>>>>>>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to >>>>>>>>>>>> realize >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are >>>>>>>>>>>> conservative >>>>>>>>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. >>>>>>>>>>>> Further, >>>>>>>>>>>> (and >>>>>>>>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the >>>>>>>>>>>> principals >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> tenets >>>>>>>>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the >>>>>>>>>>>> World, >>>>>>>>>>>> bar >>>>>>>>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our >>>>>>>>>>>> founding >>>>>>>>>>>> fathers >>>>>>>>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do >>>>>>>>>>>> understand >>>>>>>>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one >>>>>>>>>>>> important >>>>>>>>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the >>>>>>>>>>>> United >>>>>>>>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or >>>>>>>>>>>> fourth >>>>>>>>>>>> world >>>>>>>>>>>> Nation-State. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There is literally no other option. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> filled >>>>>>>>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic >>>>>>>>>>>> facts, >>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical >>>>>>>>>>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>> left, >>>>>>>>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the >>>>>>>>>>>> George >>>>>>>>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social >>>>>>>>>>>> networks. >>>>>>>>>>>> All >>>>>>>>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy >>>>>>>>>>>> News<[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >>>>>>>>>>>> For options& help >>>>>>>>>>>> seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> * It's active and moderated. 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