Anyone following this thread can see you are dodging the question.
You have spent a considerable amount of time doing so.
So based on your refusal to answer the question, and, based on your
assertion that it was a baited question, I can only conclude that you
are a closet socialist.
On 10/20/2010 10:47 AM, Tommy News wrote:
No, I am not.
On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote:
Of course you're dodging the question.
It's not like I was asking you for a 15-page dissertation on your
beliefs. I simply asked you to chose between two brief descriptions of
two types of governments.
On 10/20/2010 10:24 AM, Tommy News wrote:
I am not dodging the question.
I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that
statement.
I believe in Democracy. I am an American.
On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote:
Why are you dodging the question, Tommy?
You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two
systems of government you think we should follow being silly?
The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe
you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it.
Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you
prefer being called a collectivist.
*Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to,
or characteristic of, collectivism.*
*
*Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be
owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism.
On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:
Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive
question?
I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist.
Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either.
On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]> wrote:
Should have read:
Tommy,
Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we
should follow?
1. A system in which the means of production and distribution
are
privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate
to
the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free
market.
2. A system of social organization in which the means of
producing
and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized
government that often plans and controls the economy.
On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote:
It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you
continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals,
Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not.
That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible.
Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.
Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and
repetitive.
I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are
anti-American.
On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<[email protected]> wrote:
Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism,
Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech"
by
calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a
socialistic
political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market
economy,
are
ignorant.
I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually,
I
have a
lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They
are
dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these
folks
fall into one of two categories:
(A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They
don't
keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased
mainstream
media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking
the
time
to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or
the
root
cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to
believe
that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to
realize
that
it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative
contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes.
Further,
(and
just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of
knowledge
of
our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals
and
tenets
that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World,
bar
none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding
fathers
were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do
understand
enough history that they would very much like to revise this one
important
aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or,
(B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the
United
States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth
world
Nation-State.
There is literally no other option.
The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and
filled
with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts,
all
they
can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far
left,
Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the
George
Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks.
All
they can do, is attack the messenger.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<[email protected]>
wrote:
Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies.
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