Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!! <Grin>!!
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston <[email protected]>wrote: > Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will > pass > ------------------------- > > Yes we did. > > Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted > against extending UI benefits, using your criteria? > > On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by itself > > and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't matter > > what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the rest of > > these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth passing. > > > > On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote: > > > > > > > > > Wrong again. > > > What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT repeal > > > based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now been > > > plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out of > > > office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed. 2012, > > > Bring it on. > > > > > On 12/18/10, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will > > >> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the Omnibus > > >> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn something > but > > >> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the votes > > >> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than DADT. > > >> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming anything > > >> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. Obviously > > >> that is not so. > > > > >> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote: > > >>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�, Despite 31 > Republican > > >>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long > overdue > > >>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige of ENDA > > >>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for Civil > > >>> Rights are next. > > > > >>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell� > > > > >>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times > > >>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority Leader > > >>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t ask, > don�t > > >>> tell� vote. > > > > >>> By CARL HULSE > > >>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down the ban > on > > >>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing to a > > >>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of > > >>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their > sexual > > >>> orientation. > > > > >>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman, Susan > > >>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the repeal > > >>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.� > > > > >>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining Democrats, the > > >>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the > > >>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a policy > critics > > >>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated > > >>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens. > > > > >>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to reverse the > > >>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our history.� > > > > >>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that making > > >>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our troops as > > >>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever > > >>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a preliminary > > >>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final action on > > >>> the repeal bill. > > > > >>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the end of > > >>> racial segregation in the military. > > > > >>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the policy > > >>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit cohesion and > > >>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps > > >>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional action > > >>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a > > >>> court-ordered end. > > > > >>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish what > > >>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable personnel and > > >>> forced troops to lie to serve their country. > > > > >>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the > > >>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end the > > >>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.� > > > > >>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that would > have > > >>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants who came > > >>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of college > or > > >>> military service and met other requirements including passing a > > >>> criminal background check. > > > > >>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five votes > > >>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage of what > > >>> is known as the Dream Act. > > > > >>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate beyond > > >>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of the > > >>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring it to a > > >>> vote. > > > > >>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging in an > > >>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as advocates > > >>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people interested in > > >>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures. > > > > >>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of > Oregon, > > >>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough to risk > > >>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.� > > > > >>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier that > he > > >>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final tests > > >>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday. > > > > >>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as Democrats > > >>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn over > > >>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in January > > >>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished. > > > > >>> It represented a significant victory for the White House, > > >>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who have > > >>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 under the > > >>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the practice of > > >>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service. > > > > >>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the gay > > >>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of �don�t > ask, > > >>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after the > vote. > > > > >>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted all > around > > >>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t > tell� will > > >>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army veteran and > > >>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. > > > > >>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s > > >>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the repeal and > > >>> said the vote was a sad day in history. > > > > >>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will understand > > >>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we could > > >>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps said, > and > > >>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the > military, > > >>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our young men > > >>> and women in the military.� > > > > >>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could harm > > >>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military operations, > > >>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting or > > >>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite support > for > > >>> repealing the ban from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. > Mike > > >>> Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other military > > >>> commanders have warned that changing the practice would prove > > >>> disruptive. > > > > >>> �This isn�t broke,� Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of > Oklahoma, > > >>> said about the policy. �It is working very well.� > > > > >>> Other Republicans said that while the policy might need to be changed > > >>> at some point, Congress should not do so when American troops are > > >>> fighting overseas. > > > > >>> Only a week ago, the effort to repeal the �don�t ask, don�t > tell� > > >>> policy seemed to be dead and in danger of fading for at least two > > >>> years with Republicans about to take control of the House. The > > >>> provision eliminating the ban was initially included in a broader > > >>> Pentagon policy bill, and Republican backers of repeal had refused to > > >>> join in cutting off a filibuster against the underlying bill because > > >>> of objections over limits on debate of the measure. > > > > >>> In a last-ditch effort, Mr. Lieberman and Senator Susan Collins of > > >>> Maine, a key Republican opponent of the ban, encouraged Democratic > > >>> Congressional leaders to instead pursue a vote on simply repealing > it. > > >>> The House passed the measure earlier in the week. > > > > >>> The repeal will not take effect for at least 60 days, and probably > > >>> longer, while some other procedural steps are taken. In addition, the > > >>> bill requires the defense secretary to determine that policies are in > > >>> place to carry out the repeal �consistent with military standards > for > > >>> readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and > > >>> retention.� > > > > >>> Multimedia > > >>> Interactive Graphic > > >>> How the Senate Voted > > > > >>> Timeline > > >>> Congressional Action on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" > > > > >>> Blogs > > >>> The Caucus > > >>> The latest on President Obama, the new Congress and other news from > > >>> Washington and around the nation. Join the discussion. > > > > >>> FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus > > >>> More Politics News > > >>> �It is going to take some time,� Ms. Collins said. �It is not > going to > > > > ... > > > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. > -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
