Tom, As we have established, you cannot point to any example of where I have demonsrated any hateful lie or smear. We all sit here, atwitter with excitement and anticipation, for you to point to any post where I have done so.
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > No, you stop your hate smears and lies, Little Keithie. > > On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > > Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!! > > > > <Grin>!! > > > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will > >> pass > >> ------------------------- > >> > >> Yes we did. > >> > >> Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted > >> against extending UI benefits, using your criteria? > >> > >> On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by itself > >> > and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't matter > >> > what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the rest > of > >> > these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth > >> > passing. > >> > > >> > On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Wrong again. > >> > > What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT repeal > >> > > based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now been > >> > > plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out of > >> > > office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed. 2012, > >> > > Bring it on. > >> > > >> > > On 12/18/10, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it > will > >> > >> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the > Omnibus > >> > >> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn something > >> but > >> > >> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the > votes > >> > >> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than > DADT. > >> > >> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming > >> > >> anything > >> > >> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. > Obviously > >> > >> that is not so. > >> > > >> > >> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote: > >> > >>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�, Despite > 31 > >> Republican > >> > >>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long > >> overdue > >> > >>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige of > >> > >>> ENDA > >> > >>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for Civil > >> > >>> Rights are next. > >> > > >> > >>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell� > >> > > >> > >>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times > >> > >>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority Leader > >> > >>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t ask, > >> don�t > >> > >>> tell� vote. > >> > > >> > >>> By CARL HULSE > >> > >>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down the > >> > >>> ban > >> on > >> > >>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing to a > >> > >>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of > >> > >>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their > >> sexual > >> > >>> orientation. > >> > > >> > >>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman, > Susan > >> > >>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the > repeal > >> > >>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.� > >> > > >> > >>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining Democrats, > the > >> > >>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the > >> > >>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a > policy > >> critics > >> > >>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated > >> > >>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens. > >> > > >> > >>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to reverse > >> > >>> the > >> > >>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our > >> > >>> history.� > >> > > >> > >>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that > making > >> > >>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our troops > >> > >>> as > >> > >>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever > >> > >>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a > preliminary > >> > >>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final action > on > >> > >>> the repeal bill. > >> > > >> > >>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the end > of > >> > >>> racial segregation in the military. > >> > > >> > >>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the > policy > >> > >>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit cohesion > and > >> > >>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps > >> > >>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional > action > >> > >>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a > >> > >>> court-ordered end. > >> > > >> > >>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish > what > >> > >>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable personnel > and > >> > >>> forced troops to lie to serve their country. > >> > > >> > >>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the > >> > >>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end the > >> > >>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.� > >> > > >> > >>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that would > >> have > >> > >>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants who > >> > >>> came > >> > >>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of > college > >> or > >> > >>> military service and met other requirements including passing a > >> > >>> criminal background check. > >> > > >> > >>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five votes > >> > >>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage of > >> > >>> what > >> > >>> is known as the Dream Act. > >> > > >> > >>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate > beyond > >> > >>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of the > >> > >>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring it > to > >> > >>> a > >> > >>> vote. > >> > > >> > >>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging in > an > >> > >>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as > advocates > >> > >>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people interested > in > >> > >>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures. > >> > > >> > >>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of > >> Oregon, > >> > >>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough to > >> > >>> risk > >> > >>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.� > >> > > >> > >>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier > that > >> he > >> > >>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final > tests > >> > >>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday. > >> > > >> > >>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as Democrats > >> > >>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn > over > >> > >>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in > >> > >>> January > >> > >>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished. > >> > > >> > >>> It represented a significant victory for the White House, > >> > >>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who have > >> > >>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 under > >> > >>> the > >> > >>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the practice > of > >> > >>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service. > >> > > >> > >>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the gay > >> > >>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of �don�t > >> ask, > >> > >>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after > the > >> vote. > >> > > >> > >>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted all > >> around > >> > >>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t > >> tell� will > >> > >>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army veteran > and > >> > >>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. > >> > > >> > >>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s > >> > >>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the repeal > and > >> > >>> said the vote was a sad day in history. > >> > > >> > >>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will > understand > >> > >>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we > could > >> > >>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps said, > >> and > >> > >>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the > >> military, > >> > >>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our young > men > >> > >>> and women in the military.� > >> > > >> > >>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could > harm > >> > >>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military > >> > >>> operations, > >> > >>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting or > >> > >>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite support > >> for > >> > >>> repealing the ban from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. > >> Mike > >> > >>> Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other military > >> > >>> commanders have warned that changing the practice would prove > >> > >>> disruptive. > >> > > >> > >>> �This isn�t broke,� Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of > >> Oklahoma, > >> > >>> said about the policy. �It is working very well.� > >> > > >> > >>> Other Republicans said that while the policy might need to be > >> > >>> changed > >> > >>> at some point, Congress should not do so when American troops are > >> > >>> fighting overseas. > >> > > >> > >>> Only a week ago, the effort to repeal the �don�t ask, don�t > >> tell� > >> > >>> policy seemed to be dead and in danger of fading for at least two > >> > >>> years with Republicans about to take control of the House. The > >> > >>> provision eliminating the ban was initially included in a broader > >> > >>> Pentagon policy bill, and Republican backers of repeal had refused > >> > >>> to > >> > >>> join in cutting off a filibuster against the underlying bill > because > >> > >>> of objections over limits on debate of the measure. > >> > > >> > >>> In a last-ditch effort, Mr. Lieberman and Senator Susan Collins of > >> > >>> Maine, a key Republican opponent of the ban, encouraged Democratic > >> > >>> Congressional leaders to instead pursue a vote on simply repealing > >> it. > >> > >>> The House passed the measure earlier in the week. > >> > > >> > >>> The repeal will not take effect for at least 60 days, and probably > >> > >>> longer, while some other procedural steps are taken. In addition, > >> > >>> the > >> > >>> bill requires the defense secretary to determine that policies are > >> > >>> in > >> > >>> place to carry out the repeal �consistent with military > standards > >> for > >> > >>> readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and > >> > >>> retention.� > >> > > >> > >>> Multimedia > >> > >>> Interactive Graphic > >> > >>> How the Senate Voted > >> > > >> > >>> Timeline > >> > >>> Congressional Action on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" > >> > > >> > >>> Blogs > >> > >>> The Caucus > >> > >>> The latest on President Obama, the new Congress and other news > from > >> > >>> Washington and around the nation. Join the discussion. > >> > > >> > >>> FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus > >> > >>> More Politics News > >> > >>> �It is going to take some time,� Ms. Collins said. �It is > not > >> going to > >> > > >> > ... > >> > > >> > read more »- Hide quoted text - > >> > > >> > - Show quoted text - > >> > >> -- > >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > >> > >> * Visit our other community at > >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ <http://www.politicalforum.com/>< > http://www.politicalforum.com/> > >> * It's active and moderated. 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