No Keith, it is in fact YOU who are ignorant, misguided, and homophobic. Most gays dress and act conservatively, and are adept at surpressing their sexuality by necessity.
On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: > Not only are you misplaced Tom, you are literally ignorant. > > I am not calling you stupid, just that know not what of you speak. > > > > > On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Your homophobia is quite evident in these filthy minded, offensive >> statements. >> Heteosexuals are far,far more lewed and vulgar in and out of the >> barracks than most well behaved gays are. >> >> On 12/19/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Like I have said TommyTomTom once this gets implemented and Gays start >> > drawing DDs and BCDs for being openly Gay in the barracks (as was the >> > case before DADT) you and they will seek "special rights" such as DADT >> > offered. There is no room in the UCMJ for those "special rights" that >> > you and the other liberals will seek when this starts to happen. >> > >> > I wish you well. >> > >> > On Dec 19, 10:39 am, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Tom, >> >> >> >> As we have established, you cannot point to any example of where I have >> >> demonsrated any hateful lie or smear. We all sit here, atwitter with >> >> excitement and anticipation, for you to point to any post where I have >> >> done >> >> so. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > No, you stop your hate smears and lies, Little Keithie. >> >> >> >> > On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!! >> >> >> >> > > <Grin>!! >> >> >> >> > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston >> >> > > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it >> will >> >> > >> pass >> >> > >> ------------------------- >> >> >> >> > >> Yes we did. >> >> >> >> > >> Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who >> voted >> >> > >> against extending UI benefits, using your criteria? >> >> >> >> > >> On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by >> >> > >> > itself >> >> > >> > and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't >> >> > >> > matter >> >> > >> > what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the >> >> > >> > rest >> >> > of >> >> > >> > these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth >> >> > >> > passing. >> >> >> >> > >> > On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> > > Wrong again. >> >> > >> > > What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT >> >> > >> > > repeal >> >> > >> > > based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has >> >> > >> > > now >> >> > >> > > been >> >> > >> > > plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them >> out >> >> > >> > > of >> >> > >> > > office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed. >> >> > >> > > 2012, >> >> > >> > > Bring it on. >> >> >> >> > >> > > On 12/18/10, dick thompson<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and >> it >> >> > will >> >> > >> > >> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the >> >> > Omnibus >> >> > >> > >> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn >> >> > >> > >> something >> >> > >> but >> >> > >> > >> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of >> >> > >> > >> the >> >> > votes >> >> > >> > >> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other >> than >> >> > DADT. >> >> > >> > >> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming >> >> > >> > >> anything >> >> > >> > >> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. >> >> > Obviously >> >> > >> > >> that is not so. >> >> >> >> > >> > >> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote: >> >> > >> > >>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�, >> >> > >> > >>> Despite >> >> > 31 >> >> > >> Republican >> >> > >> > >>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a >> long >> >> > >> overdue >> >> > >> > >>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and >> >> > >> > >>> Passige >> >> > >> > >>> of >> >> > >> > >>> ENDA >> >> > >> > >>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for >> >> > >> > >>> Civil >> >> > >> > >>> Rights are next. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell� >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times >> >> > >> > >>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority >> >> > >> > >>> Leader >> >> > >> > >>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t >> >> > >> > >>> ask, >> >> > >> don�t >> >> > >> > >>> tell� vote. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> By CARL HULSE >> >> > >> > >>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike >> >> > >> > >>> down >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > >> > >>> ban >> >> > >> on >> >> > >> > >>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, >> >> > >> > >>> bringing >> >> > >> > >>> to a >> >> > >> > >>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands >> of >> >> > >> > >>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret >> their >> >> > >> sexual >> >> > >> > >>> orientation. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. >> Lieberman, >> >> > Susan >> >> > >> > >>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > repeal >> >> > >> > >>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.� >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining >> >> > >> > >>> Democrats, >> >> > the >> >> > >> > >>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the >> >> > >> > >>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a >> >> > policy >> >> > >> critics >> >> > >> > >>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that >> >> > >> > >>> treated >> >> > >> > >>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to >> >> > >> > >>> reverse >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > >> > >>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our >> >> > >> > >>> history.� >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced >> >> > >> > >>> that >> >> > making >> >> > >> > >>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our >> >> > >> > >>> troops >> >> > >> > >>> as >> >> > >> > >>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has >> ever >> >> > >> > >>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a >> >> > preliminary >> >> > >> > >>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final >> >> > >> > >>> action >> >> > on >> >> > >> > >>> the repeal bill. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the >> >> > >> > >>> end >> >> > of >> >> > >> > >>> racial segregation in the military. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > policy >> >> > >> > >>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit >> >> > >> > >>> cohesion >> >> > and >> >> > >> > >>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine >> Corps >> >> > >> > >>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. >> >> > >> > >>> Congressional >> >> > action >> >> > >> > >>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to >> >> > >> > >>> a >> >> > >> > >>> court-ordered end. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to >> abolish >> >> > what >> >> > >> > >>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable >> >> > >> > >>> personnel >> >> > and >> >> > >> > >>> forced troops to lie to serve their country. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, >> the >> >> > >> > >>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to >> end >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > >> > >>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.� >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that >> >> > >> > >>> would >> >> > >> have >> >> > >> > >>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants >> >> > >> > >>> who >> >> > >> > >>> came >> >> > >> > >>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of >> >> > college >> >> > >> or >> >> > >> > >>> military service and met other requirements including >> >> > >> > >>> passing >> a >> >> > >> > >>> criminal background check. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five >> >> > >> > >>> votes >> >> > >> > >>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final >> >> > >> > >>> passage >> >> > >> > >>> of >> >> > >> > >>> what >> >> > >> > >>> is known as the Dream Act. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate >> >> > beyond >> >> > >> > >>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control >> of >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > >> > >>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to >> >> > >> > >>> bring >> >> > >> > >>> it >> >> > to >> >> > >> > >>> a >> >> > >> > >>> vote. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, >> engaging >> >> > >> > >>> in >> >> > an >> >> > >> > >>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as >> >> > advocates >> >> > >> > >>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people >> >> > >> > >>> interested >> >> > in >> >> > >> > >>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, >> Democrat >> >> > >> > >>> of >> >> > >> Oregon, >> >> > >> > >>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country >> >> > >> > >>> enough >> >> > >> > >>> to >> >> > >> > >>> risk >> >> > >> > >>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you >> are.� >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying >> earlier >> >> > that >> >> > >> he >> >> > >> > >>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing >> >> > >> > >>> final >> >> > tests >> >> > >> > >>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as >> >> > >> > >>> Democrats >> >> > >> > >>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they >> turn >> >> > over >> >> > >> > >>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans >> >> > >> > >>> in >> >> > >> > >>> January >> >> > >> > >>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> It represented a significant victory for the White House, >> >> > >> > >>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who >> >> > >> > >>> have >> >> > >> > >>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 >> >> > >> > >>> under >> >> > >> > >>> the >> >> > >> > >>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the >> >> > >> > >>> practice >> >> > of >> >> > >> > >>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the >> >> > >> > >>> gay >> >> > >> > >>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of >> >> > >> > >>> �don�t >> >> > >> ask, >> >> > >> > >>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber >> after >> >> > the >> >> > >> vote. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members >> posted >> >> > >> > >>> all >> >> > >> around >> >> > >> > >>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, >> don�t >> >> > >> tell� will >> >> > >> > >>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army >> >> > >> > >>> veteran >> >> > and >> >> > >> > >>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s >> >> > >> > >>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the >> >> > >> > >>> repeal >> >> > and >> >> > >> > >>> said the vote was a sad day in history. >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will >> >> > understand >> >> > >> > >>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And >> >> > >> > >>> we >> >> > could >> >> > >> > >>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps >> >> > >> > >>> said, >> >> > >> and >> >> > >> > >>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the >> >> > >> military, >> >> > >> > >>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our >> >> > >> > >>> young >> >> > men >> >> > >> > >>> and women in the military.� >> >> >> >> > >> > >>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change >> could >> >> > harm >> >> > >> > >>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military >> >> > >> > >>> operations, >> >> > >> > >>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from >> enlisting >> >> > >> > >>> or >> >> > >> > >>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite >> >> > >> > >>> support >> >> > >> for >> >> >> >> ... >> >> >> >> read more » >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> > >> > * Visit our other community at >> > http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >> -- >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> Have a great day, >> Tommy >> >> -- >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> * Visit our other community at >> http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> * It's active and moderated. 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