Stop parroting that tired old Reich wing fundie slogan spin, sage.
On 1/9/11, Sage2 <[email protected]> wrote: > Is it not strange to all that " gays " do not have the natural > ability to procreate. A man & a man, can not a child carry, a woman & > a woman can not a child germinate. The only rights any have is life > and giving life. There are a low percentage of heterosexuals that are > unable to procreate because of infertility but there are no gay men > combination or lesbian pair that can. Anything other than > heterosexuality is merely a perversion and any perversion in > heterosexuality is nothing but perversion. It is always the perverts > that proclaim rights for that which is obviously wrong. > > ******************************************************************************************************************************************* > > On Jan 9, 9:56 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage >> Direct link:http://www.gao.gov/atext/d04353r.txt >> >> On 1/9/11, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Markie Mark- >> >> > Here is your homework assignment. >> >> > Read thes 1,138 Federal Statutes about Civil Marriage Rights which are >> > denied to same gender couples, and then report back tell me why you >> > were wrong 1,138 times. >> >> > The 1,138 Benefits and Protections of Marriage >> > Click Here: >> >http://www.ralliance.org/1138.html >> >> > On 1/9/11, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Markie Mark- >> >> >> Wrong again. There are over 1,300 codified laws and privleges directly >> >> concerning civil marriage and marriage contracts. Those laws concern >> >> the ACT and contract, and NOT the "one word" as you falsely claim. >> >> >> On 1/9/11, Mark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Tommy, tommy , tooooooommmmmmmyyyyyy, >> >> >>> Government has NOT codified "Marriage" as you are using it. They have >> >>> simply >> >>> defined the word "marriage" (not the act of being "joined" legally, >> >>> civilly >> >>> or religiously. >> >> >>> Read the statute... it is all about the definition of ONE word... NOT >> >>> the >> >>> act. >> >> >>> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Tommy News <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>>> Wrong again, Keithie Keith Keith. >> >> >>>> I suggest you take a good look at the 14th Amendment again, and at >> >>>> the >> >>>> recent court rulings on DOMA and Prop 8, and you will see that you >> >>>> are >> >>>> incorrect. >> >> >>>> Civil marriage is not Religious marriage, and I suggest you get that >> >>>> simple concept through your thick offensive anti-gay animus filled >> >>>> homophobic skull. >> >> >>>> As long as the government codifies civil marriage, all citizens must >> >>>> be included in those laws equally regardless of gender. Anything less >> >>>> is unconstitutional, discriminatory, and unjust. Churches are then >> >>>> free to bless those civil marriages or not as they choose. There are >> >>>> plenty of Progressive churches that will. >> >> >>>> You are repeating your false Reich wing spin, Lil' Keithie Keith. >> >> >>>> On 1/8/11, Keith In Köln <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> > DOMA is very much Constitutional, This is where folks try and >> >>>> > redefine >> >>>> the >> >>>> > term and concept of marriage, which is a ecclisastical function. >> >>>> > Tom >> >>>> > and >> >>>> > most militant Gays who wish to force their lifestyle down >> >>>> > Americans' >> >>>> > proverbial throats, (Note how Tom defined and described the term >> >>>> > "Gay" >> >>>> > above, yet a few days ago was attempting to claim that the term, >> >>>> > "Gay" >> >>>> had >> >>>> > nothing at all to do with sexuality) want to redefine the term and >> >>>> concept >> >>>> > of marriage, in order to force their secularist beliefs upon the >> >>>> > American >> >>>> > public. >> >> >>>> > On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:27 AM, GregfromBoston >> >>>> > <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >>>> >> Tell the president. I did >> >> >>>> >> On Jan 7, 9:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> > Yes, Greg. >> >> >>>> >> > I believe that DOMA is indeed unconstitutuional. >> >> >>>> >> > On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> > > Well Tom, you just echoed the court on why DOMA is >> >>>> >> > > unconstitutional. >> >>>> >> > > It IS. >> >> >>>> >> > > On Jan 7, 8:22 pm, Tommy News <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> > >> Markie Mark- >> >> >>>> >> > >> Your statements are naive and you are clearly uneducated. >> >> >>>> >> > >> At the time the Constitution was written in the late 18th >> >>>> >> > >> Century, >> >>>> >> "gay" >> >>>> >> > >> simply meant festive, happy, or beautiful, and the term had >> >>>> >> > >> nothing >> >>>> >> > >> to >> >>>> >> do >> >>>> >> > >> with sexuality whatsoever. Since the term did not refer to >> >>>> >> same-gendered >> >>>> >> > >> "friendship", which was the term used for same gender >> >>>> >> > >> relationships >> >>>> >> > >> at >> >>>> >> > >> that >> >>>> >> > >> time, the term "gay" does not exist in the Constitution at >> >>>> >> > >> all, >> >>>> >> > >> as >> >>>> >> > >> the >> >>>> >> > >> term >> >>>> >> > >> as we now use it did not exist. In fact, in the 1780's, Sex >> >>>> >> > >> was >> >>>> >> > >> rarely >> >>>> >> > >> ever >> >>>> >> > >> discussed or mentioned at all outside of close private >> >>>> >> > >> encounters >> >>>> >> between >> >>>> >> > >> "friends" and couples behind closed doors. The Constitution >> >>>> >> > >> does, >> >>>> >> however, >> >>>> >> > >> state in the 14th amendment that discrimination against any >> >>>> >> > >> citizen >> >>>> >> > >> is >> >>>> >> > >> unlawful: " All persons born or naturalized in the United >> >>>> >> > >> States, >> >>>> and >> >>>> >> > >> subject to the jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> thereof, >> >>>> >> > >> are >> >>>> >> citizens of >> >>>> >> > >> the United States and of the State wherein they reside.( No ) >> >>>> >> > >> State >> >>>> >> shall >> >>>> >> > >> make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or >> >>>> >> immunities >> >>>> >> > >> of >> >>>> >> > >> citizens of the United States; nor shall any State >> >>>> >> > >> deprive<glossary.html#DEPRIVE>any person of life, liberty, or >> >>>> >> > >> property, without due >> >>>> >> > >> process <consttop_duep.html> of law; nor deny to any person >> >>>> >> > >> within >> >>>> >> > >> its >> >>>> >> > >> jurisdiction <glossary.html#JURIS> the equal protection of >> >>>> >> > >> the >> >>>> laws." >> >>>> >> > >> Therefore, the current unequal second calss citizen status of >> >>>> >> > >> gays >> >>>> in >> >>>> >> the >> >>>> >> > >> United States is unlawful, unconstitutional, and >> >>>> >> > >> discriminatory. >> >> >>>> >> > >> So there you have it, Markie. I hope that this lesson in >> >>>> >> > >> etymology >> >>>> >> > >> and >> >>>> >> the >> >>>> >> > >> Constitution enlightens you somewhat. >> >> >>>> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:58 AM, THE ANNOINTED ONE >> >>>> >> > >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >>>> >> > >> > Tommy, >> >> >>>> >> > >> > Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution >> >>>> >> > >> > that >> >>>> Gays >> >>>> >> > >> > (etc) do not have. >> >> >>>> >> > >> > You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list >> >>>> >> > >> > them. >> >>>> >> > >> > Just >> >>>> >> what >> >>>> >> > >> > are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life >> >>>> >> > >> > that >> >>>> >> > >> > others >> >>>> >> > >> > have. >> >> >>>> >> > >> > Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only >> >>>> >> > >> > be >> >>>> >> granted >> >>>> >> > >> > on a State level. >> >> >>>> >> > >> > ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different >> >>>> >> "privileges" >> >>>> >> > >> > and "licenses" that are left to the "Several States" are >> >>>> >> > >> > not >> >>>> >> > >> > now >> >>>> >> nor >> >>>> >> > >> > were they ever meant to be, "Rights". >> >> >>>> >> > >> > Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being >> >>>> >> > >> > that >> >>>> >> which >> >>>> >> > >> > makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. >> >>>> >> > >> > (I >> >>>> would >> >>>> >> > >> > NEVER live in Texas) >> >> >>>> >> > >> > Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use >> >>>> >> > >> > laws, >> >>>> >> > >> > marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL >> >>>> >> > >> > vary >> >>>> >> > >> > from >> >>>> >> > >> > State to State because the "Several States" have the >> >>>> >> > >> > "Right" >> >>>> >> > >> > to >> >>>> >> > >> > make >> >>>> >> > >> > it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State >> >>>> >> > >> > as >> >>>> long >> >>>> >> as >> >>>> >> > >> > it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed >> >>>> >> > >> > and >> >>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally enumerated "Rights". >> >> >>>> >> > >> > Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and >> >>>> >> > >> > Enumerated >> >>>> >> "Rights" >> >>>> >> > >> > are you lacking ?? >> >> >>>> >> > >> > I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for >> >>>> >> > >> > each. >> >>>> Then >> >>>> >> we >> >>>> >> > >> > can discuss it. >> >> >>>> >> > >> > I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate >> >>>> >> (remember, >> >>>> >> > >> > Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an >> >>>> >> > >> > earnest >> >>>> >> > >> > discussion. >> >> >>>> >> > >> > -- >> >>>> >> > >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>> >> > >> > For options & help seehttp:// >> >>>> groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>>> >> > >> > * Visit our other community >> >>>> >> > >> > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >>>> >> > >> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our >> >>>> >> > >> > polls. >> >>>> >> > >> > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >>>> >> > >> -- >> >>>> >> > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >>>> >> > >> Have a great day, >> >>>> >> > >> Tommy- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>> >> > >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >>>> >> > > -- >> >>>> >> > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>> >> > > For options & help >> >>>> >> > > seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>>> >> > > * Visit our other community >> >>>> >> > > athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >>>> >> > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> >>>> >> > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >>>> >> > -- >> >>>> >> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. >> >>>> >> > Have a great day, >> >>>> >> > Tommy- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>> >> > - Show quoted text - >> >> >>>> >> -- >> >>>> >> Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>> >> For options & help >> >>>> >> seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>>> >> * Visit our other community at >> >>>> >>http://www.PoliticalForum.com/<http://www.politicalforum.com/> >> >>>> >> * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> >>>> >> * Read the latest breaking news, and more. >> >> >>>> > -- >> >>>> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. >> >>>> > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum >> >> >>>> > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ >> >>>> > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. >> >>>> > * >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time. Have a great day, Tommy -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
