Most everything people do is done on a voluntary basis - no government required.

On 04/22/2011 01:33 PM, Mark wrote:
And it still functions without the lawmakers.... Go figure.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Ashley <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    John,

    "In terms of comparative social spending on welfare-related
    programs as a percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP),
    Denmark ranks first, spending more than 29 percent of GDP on its
    welfare-related programs. Next is Sweden (nearly 29 percent),
    followed by France, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, and
    Finland. The United Kingdom ranks in the middle of the pack in
    13th place (nearly 22 percent of GDP). The United States ranks
    near the bottom, in 26th place (out of 29), spending less than 15
    percent of its GDP on social welfare programs. The United States
    ranks just ahead of Ireland, Mexico, and South Korea."

    http://pagerankstudio.com/Blog/2011/03/what-is-welfare-state/

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    On 04/22/2011 08:41 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
    On average, yes they are!  Few in Belgium look to government for
    handouts.  In the USA, close to 45% want a government handout.
    Anything over 5% is excessive.  But that's why I've written my New
    Constitution—to get government out of the hand-out, pull-the-strings
    business!   —  John A. Armistead —  Patriot
    On Apr 21, 9:56 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>
    wrote:
    So, you're saying the People of Belgium are better People than those in
    the United States?

    J. Ashley:  Run your experiments in Belgium, then!  The USA would be
    in civil war...   � J. A. A. �
    On Apr 21, 12:04 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>
    wrote:
    John,
    It is highly doubtful that we would return to the stone age without
    government. Belgium has been without a national government for more than
    313 days and "Belgians say the absence of a government doesn't make much
    of a difference in their daily lives."
    On 04/20/2011 08:42 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
    Jonathan:  You are showing some smarts there!  Since I am an untra-
    conservative capitalist, I don't like being... "left" of anyone,
    because that would seem to make me... a God-damned liberal.  I
    deliberately avoided using the "L" word, because I am the exact
    opposite.  If your ego considers being an anarchist more conservative
    than me, consider this: The USA would return to the 'stone ages'
    within one month of there being no government(s).  So, your "ideal" of
    no taxation and no government won't benefit a soul on Earth.  Is
    having you "get real" too much to ask?  �  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
    On Apr 20, 12:50 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>
    wrote:
    John,
    Since anarchy is absence of government, how can one be "right" of
    anarchy? (I don't actually expect an answer, as you NEVER answer
    questions posed to you.)
    On 04/20/2011 01:54 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
    Jonathan:  For you, anything 'right' of anarchy is socialist.  I
    suggest you write your one paragraph constitution banning government.
    Unless you are from the stone ages, you won't survive very long on
    your own.  �  J. A. A. �
    On Apr 18, 11:53 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>
    wrote:
    But John, you're the one who has written a socialist constitution.
    On 04/18/2011 08:31 PM, NoEinstein wrote:
    Jonathan:  Mainly he's done that by attacking the capitalist system
    that made this country great; and by supposing that government should
    control everything (with him in charge).  The fact that you even ask
    that question confirms my initial gut reaction that you are a
    socialist-communist, like 95% of Democrats are.  The remaining 5% are
    just stupid.  You're in both of those groups.  � J. A. Armistead �
    Patriot
    On Apr 18, 3:03 pm, Jonathan Ashley<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>
    wrote:
    John,
    That you own stock in a company that routinely downgrades websites based
    on "link relevance" over "content relevance" says much about your
    credibility regarding the understanding of what freedom of expression means.
    That you believe Obama "has caused more economic and social harm to the
    USA than any other person who ever lived, including Hitler" seems
    ludicrous. Just how has he (as an individual) been able to pull off this
    tremendous task?
    On 04/17/2011 09:05 AM, NoEinstein wrote:
    Dear Mark:  I own Google stock.  It's an American multinational
    Corporation that's headquartered in Mountain View, California.  Google
    World shows the new complex quite well.  In many ways you are very
    naive.  Your obvious desire to protect Barack Obama's neck from the
    noose is tantamount to looking-the-other-way to those who commit
    TREASON every day of their existence.  Would you put on moderation
    someone who proposes that Libyan President Kadafi should be killed?
    Do you suppose it is Google's obligation to protect those who kill
    their citizens?  Hundreds, if not thousands, of Americans have
    committed suicide because of the bad economy and the lack of jobs
    resulting from Obama's socialist-capitalist policies.  He has caused
    more economic and social harm to the USA than any other person who
    ever lived, including Hitler.
    Treason is a recognized capital offense.  Those in our government and
    in our law enforcement who don't press to have that bastard arrested,
    tried and hanged are themselves in violation of the Constitution for
    giving aid and comfort to the enemy.  Keith suggested that you,
    Jonathan and MJ are anxious to read my next "missive".  He's viewed
    you all in a favorable light, before.  As for me, I suspect you are so
    screwed-up in the head that you are both for and against having a
    better government.  That means you have schizophrenia.  Get some couch-
    time, Mark.  You need it!  �  J. A. Armistead �  Patriot
    On Apr 16, 10:28 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>            wrote:
    Einstein,
    Again, you mistake me for someone that is liable under the present, or
    your future, US Constitution. The message you received is the standard
    message sent to all new or moderated members, get used to it. It
    originates from outside the US and is also not liable under US law.
    Isn't the internet grand when the originating country has the
    responsibility for what is or is not allowed under their law(s).
    On Apr 16, 7:11 pm, NoEinstein<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>            wrote:
    Dear Keith:  I sensed that there was a common thread of "reasoning" in
    those you name. My last missive, as you say, was explaining why Jews
    are causing a lot of problems and expense while seeming to be such
    nice people.  Israel should become a training place for successful
    capitalism.  Only the latter can start to heal the deep wounds Muslims
    feel.
    Today, when I posted: "Can The Donald 'Fix' the Thin Ice that the USA
    is skating on?"  There was a message (Mark's responsibility?) saying
    that moderators must approve what I say.  Of course that in
    UNCONSTITUTIONAL by both the present Constitution, and by my New
    Constitution, which requires that Mark be fired from his job.  If you
    butterfly conservatives are starting to understand what I'm saying,
    then you should like to know that about 85% of my New Constitution has
    now  been copied and pasted for interested citizens to read.  The last
    15% relates to problems with government which I have batted heads
    with, first hand.  Once people begin showing appreciation for the 85%
    of my non-Stalinesk document, the remainder will become available.
    But NOT on this forum.  The full document will be presented as part of
    a book containing my many essays and detailed rational for why this
    country needs a New Constitution Now.  You guys can help speed things
    along by talking-up my document on the NET.  � John A. Armistead �
    Patriot
    On Apr 16, 4:17 pm, Keith In K�ln<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>            wrote:
    Hey John!
    I am atwitter with excitement and anticipation!  Jonathan,  Mark  and MJ are
    already chomping at the bit to sling complimentary praise and one of them
    maybe even will write a haiku in your honor!  Sugarshack Literal Truth might
    even have an orgasm in anticipation of reading your next missive!
    On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 4:21 AM, NoEinstein<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>wrote:
    Stay tuned, People!  Tomorrow I will write you another essay
    explaining why the "ritual" of most of our political-governmental
    processes are either unconstitutional, wasteful of economic resources,
    or otherwise stupid.  �  John A. Armistead �  Patriot
    On Apr 14, 10:44 pm, NoEinstein<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>            wrote:
    Like me, the readers must be busy with spring buying and fix-up.  The
    present discussions will affect the fortunes and the liberty
    (happiness) of your grandchildren.  There won't be any more fortunes
    and little liberty if the US economy goes down-the-tubes.  By adapting
    my New Constitution, the survival of the USA will be assured!  � John
    A. Armistead �  Patriot
    Those interested are invited to read my book: "The Shortest Distance;
    Harmony Through Prosperity" (Amazon and B.&            N.).  I'm thrilled 
that
    the word 'prosperity' is being mentioned more and more as a cure for
    our ailing economy (Capitalism over socialism).  That book explains
    the 'build-up' to my writing the New Constitution.  Simple things can
    turn this country around!  And none of them involving conducting...
    business-as-usual in Washington!  Trust me, Folks!  I know what I am
    doing.  99.5% of those in Washington are clueless!
    On Apr 11, 2:36 am, NoEinstein<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>            wrote:
    Mark:  If you could, and would, read my document with an open mind,
    there is nothing injurious to ordinary citizens.  Stalin didn't give a
    damn about ordinary citizens (or soldiers).  He killed them by the
    millions.  Are you saying that my New Constitution will harm ordinary
    citizens?  Ha, ha, HA!  Then you can't read, for sure!  � J. A. A.
    �
    On Apr 10, 7:25 pm, Mark<[email protected]>  
<mailto:[email protected]>            wrote:
    I prefer to call it what it is.... Stalinesque.
    On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:30 PM,
    ..

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