We’re One Nation of individuals? I like it. Until ethnic, cultural and minority groups see themselves as US citizens first they'll never really be Americans.
On Jun 2, 3:21 pm, NoEinstein <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear plainolamerican: If the only... "control" is the democracy votes > of the people, things will be in dangerous flux. However, my New > Constitution has about 20% devoted to explaining those things that are > outside the authority of government. The best short summary of the > ideals of my New Constitution are in the New ‘Pledge to Allegiance to > the Flag’: “I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag of the United States of > America and to the Democracy-on-demand Republic for which it stands. > We’re One Nation of individuals who champion fair play, maximum civil > liberties, the Right of Self-determination, and having an efficient, > unobtrusive and deferential government.” Socialism and communism are > ruled out for not being fair. So, Democracy on demand can never screw > things up! — John A. Armistead — Patriot > > On Jun 2, 12:25 pm, plainolamerican <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > We could do better by just giving the vote to the first 100 people to > > cross Main Street! — J. A. Armistead — Patriot > > --- > > speculation noted > > > Why do democracies fail? Two of the major reasons are: 1) > > democracies generally progress through an initial period from bondage > > to spiritual faith escalating to the point where the citizens become > > totally dependent on the government to where they eventually revert > > back to bondage, and 2) once the democracy shows signs of prosperity, > > citizens vote themselves generous bounties from the public treasury. > > > On May 26, 7:38 pm, NoEinstein <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > MJ: What "definition" is that? That an anti-democracy and anti- > > > Republic oligarchy has more power than the former two? The US senate > > > is THE most corrupt band of career politicians on planet Earth! We > > > could do better by just giving the vote to the first 100 people to > > > cross Main Street! — J. A. Armistead — Patriot > > > > On May 26, 1:32 pm, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Again, Constitutional is of or by the Constitution. > > > > The Senate is constitutional -- by definition. > > > > Until the removal of the check with Amendment 17 (not properly ratified > > > > per Article V), the Senate was the 'representative' of the States -- > > > > those entities forming the United States (plural). > > > > Contrary to your insistence, the Constitution does not create this idea > > > > of mob rule to which you are so enamored and believe will *magically* > > > > correct ills. > > > > Regard$, > > > > --MJ > > > > Democracy: A government of the masses. Authority derived through mass > > > > meeting or any other form of direct expression. Results in mobocracy. > > > > Attitude toward property is communistic ... Attitude toward law is that > > > > the will of the majority shall regulate, whether it is based on > > > > deliberation or governed by passion, prejudice, or impulse, without > > > > restraint or regard to the consequences. Result is demagogism, license, > > > > agitation, discontent, anarchy. > > > > -- U.S. Army training manual No. 2000-25 (1928-1932)Dear MJ: The > > > > Founding Fathers were BLACKMAILED into including a > > > > senate, because small states feared being exploited by larger states. > > > > The senate is an oligarchy that slaps-in-the-face our Representative > > > > Republic. Since principles of FAIRNESS are so evident throughout the > > > > main body of the Constitution, then, the VICTOR in disputes has to be > > > > the side favoring fair play and democracy! The mere fact that the > > > > senate was included in the Constitution doesn't make that > > > > constitutional! Just because 'laws' are passed doesn't make those > > > > constitutional, either. The US Senate has been a drag of fair play > > > > and democracy from day one! For the record, the US Supreme Court, > > > > wherein one justice has a power greater than Congress, or the People, > > > > is UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!! Learn, if you can, MJ. So far you seem > > > > committed to a lifetime of taking-over your flunked courses in how to > > > > think. — J. A. A. — > > > > > On May 25, 9:43 am, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The US Senate, which was originally selected by the legislatures of > > > > > the several states, was an ill conceived OLIGARCHY. Since there has > > > > > never been a parity of the population served by each senator, that > > > > > means the USA has two conflicting political systems, and the oligarchy > > > > > is the one which isn't FAIR. Giving undue power to smaller population > > > > > states slaps REPUBLIC ideas in the face. So, the US Senate is and > > > > > always has been, unconstitutional.The Senate -- by definition -- > > > > > cannot be unconstitutional. > > > > > What you (continue) fail to grasp is that the Constitution is/was an > > > > > agreement between Sovereign States. The Senate is THEIR > > > > > representative body. Amendment 17 curtailed yet another check on > > > > > Federal power. > > > > > Regard$, > > > > > --MJ > > > > > The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal > > > > > government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the > > > > > State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be > > > > > exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, > > > > > negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of > > > > > taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved > > > > > to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the > > > > > ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and > > > > > properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and > > > > > prosperity of the State. -- James Madison, Federalist Papers > > > > -- > > > > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > > > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > > > * Visit our other community athttp://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > > > > * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. > > > > * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -- Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more.
