On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, Merrick wrote:

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, at 2:25 AM, Fred Morris wrote:

I'll hazard that the reputation of particular domains whether they're
TLDs or PseudoTLDs, registrars, or particular constellations of network
infrastructure, is outside the scope of this list. There are lists for the
discussion of such issues, although in my experience the useful ones are
not public.

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Fred Morris


Hello Fred

If we choose not using big providers (google, MS etc), what mail service should 
be better to use?
Setup a mail server is hard job, I am not sure every body can do that well.

I'm not sure this is on-topic for this list either. I wasn't trying to say anyone's a bad person for using the big providers, but you do pick the neighborhood and the landlord. Honestly if they're serious about the reputational aspects of making "ESP" a thing, I'll praise them for it.

You can have more than one, too, such as one which supports encryption, or DANE, or whatever.

Is this a question about sending or receiving? What are the issues which concern you? There are also legal aspects of "data at rest"; there might be other aspects which I am unaware of in other jurisdictions.

I suppose that's a segue to: on the receiving side you can use a provider as a forwarder, but do all of the storage and stuff locally: there are hybrid solutions. The degree of email protection thus provided is a sliding control, dial to the degree you're seeking to offload.

On the sending side, use SPF, and don't make it so complicated you mess it up. Get some reputation data about your infrastructure neighborhood, or forward sending to someone who has a good reputation who is willing to relay for you. (If their reputation is any good, they probably pay attention to complaints. If their reputation is bad, there'll be plenty.)

Keep an eye on DANE.

Since I run my own mail servers I'm probably not a good person to ask. I don't find it particularly hard work. I set account limits, provide some tools and also disincentives to make safety and privacy the easier course and at the end of the day it's my servers, my rules.

As for my employer's and correspondent's practices, their servers, their rules.

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Fred Morris

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