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> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 01:55:01 -0500
> From: James Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: problems running OS 9.2.2
> 
>> I've been running OS 9.1 on my PowerWave with a PowerLogix G3
>> upgrade for quite some time without serious problems, although
>> Netscape 7.0.2 had begun randomly to freeze or turn to black in
>> recent weeks when moving to a new URL.
>> Last weekend, I decided update to OS 9.2.2 using OS9 helper. I
>> had some problems getting a download of the 9.2.1 updater that would
>> work, but once I got past that, the 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 updates went
>> smoothly, or so I thought.
>> Unfortunately I've now got three problems, which may or may not
>> be related to each other, that did not exist before the updates.
>> 1. The shutdown process freezes the computer after closing
>> windows, quitting applications (if any are running) and erasing
>> desktop icons but before blanking the screen. This freeze does not
>> occur on restarts. The only way I can completely power down is to
>> turn off the plug strip to which the computer is connected.
>> 2. The second problem primarily involves Eudora 6.1, but has also
>> been seen at least once involving Netscape. When I close a Eudora
>> window (i.e. mailbox, message), the icons that were one the screen
>> behind it have disappeared. They can be made to reappear by
>> selecting the area of the screen where they are located, clicking on
>> each spot where one is located or if they are inside a window by
>> windowshading and then unwindowshading. There seems to be some
>> connection between the time the Eudora window is open and  the icon
>> disappearances but it is not consistent. Sometimes nothing happens.
>> But I have also seen the opening splash box for Eudora cause icons
>> to disappear when Eudora took longer than usual to start. At least
>> once, when I closed a Netscape window the icons behind it were gone,
>> although it is possible I had been using Eudora while the Netscape
>> window remained open behind it. I have not seen the problem with
>> Internet Explorer or Opera.
>> 3. The third problem has only begun within the past day or so.
>> Eudora is in my startup folder and usually starts right up. But I've
>> started to get occasional messages that it has shut down due to
>> error 1. Twice after seeing the message, I tried to use Sherlock 2
>> and got a message about an address error. Reboot and everything
>> works.
>> I've trashed some preference files and done a little
>> experimenting with deactivating extensions, but haven't found a
>> cure. I'd welcome any ideas.
>> --
>> Karl Seitz
> 
> Karl:
> I tried to use Macintosh 9.2.2 two or three years ago but I
> had the problem of the computer refusing to shut down.  I do not
> recommend any operating system that has to be fooled into loading on
> the hardware that I use...OS9 Helper fools the installer into letting
> wrong hardware use the software.  I have tried Netscape 6 and
> Netscape 7 but I like Netscape 4.77.
> James

That's funny.  I used OS9 Helper on my PTP 225 with unmodified CPU and it
works just fine.  In fact, things load just a little bit faster, and startup
and shutdown times are drastically improved.  But I will admit that
differences in hardware and software could cause incompatibility problems.
I would try reinstalling 9.1 if I were you.  My experience with 9.2.2 is
that it doesn't really improve anything that much, and I wouldn't do it
again unless I was running a program that absolutely needed it.  I'm sorry
about your troubles, though.  Guess I was lucky in that regard.

--Jack Mileur

P.S.  Netscape 6 and 7 run slower than molasses in January for me.  For a
classic browser, I prefer iCab, then Wamcom (a Mozilla build optimized for
classic Macs) whenever I need the extra features of a Mozilla-based browser.


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