Charlie Coleman wrote: > At 08:42 PM 1/23/2007 -0300, Ricardo Aráoz wrote: > ... >>> Nope. By my definition you are not a Christian because you refuse to >> accept >>> God's Grace into your heart. >> Hey! Didn't you say we have no control whatsoever over 'god's grace'? >> So if there's nothing you can do to get it, then there's nothing you can >> do to refuse it. Or do you question god's omnipotence? > ... > > I don't recall saying that. I've been saying things like we can't save > ourselves only God's grace can do that. Is that clearer?
Then it follows that also God's grace can save us, no matter what, god has that power. Or do you deny god's power? > > God gave us free will. So we make choices all the time. The most critical > choice, IMO, is whether or not to accept that we cannot obtain our own > salvation. E.g. we can't work it off, we can't buy it off, we can't > "intellectualize" it, etc. We have to accept God's grace, personally. > > So I don't deny God's Omnipotence, but I do think He uses it where He > wants. So maybe He will bring all souls to Him in the end, I don't know. > All I know is His words while He was here on Earth say that is not how it's > going to be. Well now you blew it man. He didn't speak, Jesus did all the talking and claimed that it was his "father's" way. > > -Charlie > > > [excessive quoting removed by server] _______________________________________________ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
