At 07:53 PM 1/25/2007 -0300, Ricardo Aráoz wrote:

> > I don't know. During this discussion I imagined how I would feel if my
> > children were killed. Either by some tragedy or by another person. All I
> > can say is that I'd be grief-stricken. Maybe because I'll miss them in the
> > few years I have remaining here on Earth....
>
>C'mon, you won't miss them the same way as if, say, they'd gone to live
>abroad and you'll never see them again.
>And if you don't feel that way then it means that your emotions (that
>expression of your soul) don't run together with what you claim is your
>faith. Ergo your faith is only superficial, it does not encompass the
>whole of your soul.

I don't think you've thought it through if you believe "children moving 
abroad" would be the same feeling as them suddenly dying or being killed. I 
would feel sorrow in both cases, but the latter would be much, much more 
severe.

Now, if you're saying a Christian can never grieve, I don't think you're in 
agreement with Biblical scripture and Christ's teachings.

Also, are you suggesting that once you're a Christian you're suddenly 
perfect? That every thing you do, feel, and say is going to be perfectly 
what God would have you do? I'm pretty sure you realize that is not what 
Christianity teaches either.

And if you're calling me a bad Christian, that's OK. I agree with that (to 
some degree at least). I'm definitely not a perfect Christian. But if 
you're calling me a hypocrite, then I'll disagree with you. But then I have 
the advantage of knowing what's in my heart. Anyway, I definitely feel 
grief when friends and family die. I definitely still fail and sin at 
times. But even at my lowest moments, I know my salvation rests with Christ 
and just meditating on that for a while never fails to bring me joy and peace.

-Charlie



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