> Sweet. My next question is - why?
> 
> You have, say, six machines on one box. Where do the users sit, around
> a
> table? Or, if they are throughout the building, why not thin client?
> 
> Just asking :-)
>

Heh-heh, oh yes, the one little overlooked detail.  At least I was not as
clear as I needed to be.  We have clients with PCs at their own facilities
that perform automated data extractions using an automated communication
process (non-ODBC compliant dinosaur of a database called PICK).  After we
snap off the raw data we need it is automatically ZipCrypted (ZipGenius
where it is both zipped and encrypted) and uploaded to our ftp server.  We
have machines, previously physical machines, that use Windows scheduler to
daily retrieve the ZipCrypted files from these many client locations, and
drop the embedded captured data files into specific locations for each
client dealership.

Then, also on a Windows scheduler automated basis my TranslationEngine (VFP
app) lights up and translates the data.  After the translations are complete
I send ZipCrypted status files back to my ftp server for the client machines
to (Windows scheduler automation for them also) download these status files,
and place those embedded files onto the client PCs so their PCs know what to
pull the next time their scheduler app tells them it is time to get more
data.  The TranslationEngine by then is sitting in a polling mode, looking
for Trigger Files from David that order data for our reports.  When the
Translation PCs see a Trigger File, said Trigger File contains all the
instructions in it re: what SQL SELECT statement to run, what store it is
for, where to place the output file, what format the file is to be in (csv,
tab, fixed length, xml).  The SQL SELECT command from the Trigger File is
executed, and the results are placed where commanded, and TranslationEngine
goes back into its polling mode until it is told to shut down for the day
(config file, usually 23:00 each day).  The next morning the entire process
is repeated.

So, in short humans are not using these machines directly.  They are all
part of an automated process David and I developed over the past few years
in preparation for doing more commercial work.  We tested it for years for
our own End User clients to make certain it worked, and it works great.
This new commercial account is our initial broad market entry into the
commercial world.


Gil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:profoxtech-
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pete Theisen
> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:52 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [NF] Suggestions on how to automate VM Server client
> backups?
> 
> Gilbert M. Hale wrote:
> >> virtualization vs physical machines,
> > here is the bottom line.  If I used physical machines I would need 27
> PCs
> > that would cost (with PC, UPS, external backup HDD units and backup
> SyncBack
> > software) about $2,140 each.  And each PC with its external HDDs
> takes about
> > $10/month in electricity to run - not including the further
> additional heat
> > load the air conditioning would have to fight.  Using VMware I can
> get by
> > with 7 ESXi Servers (punchy workstation class PCs), with a cost of
> $2,500
> > each with all the fluff (SyncBack, UPS, external HDDs) - plus the
> VMware
> > licensing of course.  The difference is $57,780 for 27 physical PCs,
> plus
> > $270.month for electricity vs $17,500 for 7 physical ESXi Server PCs
> and
> > about $70/month for electricity
> 
> Hi Gil!
> 
> Sweet. My next question is - why?
> 
> You have, say, six machines on one box. Where do the users sit, around
> a
> table? Or, if they are throughout the building, why not thin client?
> 
> Just asking :-)
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Pete
> http://pete-theisen.com/
> http://elect-pete-theisen.com/
> 
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