I think that all you proved is that you are an argumentative idiot with
debatable sexual morals. 

-----Original Message-----
From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
Of Ricardo Aráoz
Sent: Friday, 9 April 2010 10:45 AM
To: ProFox Email List
Subject: Re: [OT] You picked a fine time to lead us...

geoff wrote:
> Since you want another round...
>
> Just replace 'drinking' with 'underage sex' and see if your argument
> changes. If your argument changes simply by changing the circumstances,
then
> you have not espoused a principle, but merely a generalisation which - as
> generalisations always do - is often right but also often wrong. It is a
> generalisation that abortion is supported more by the right than the
centre
> and left. It is mostly true but not exclusively so.
>
> So, do you feel you have a right to impose your view on underage sex on
> people and penalise it? 
>
>   
Ufffff.... ok, let's see.

I don't support underage sex, I discourage my daughter and anyone else to
underage sex. I think underage sex is a disgusting and unhealthy addiction
and I don't give any implicit or explicit license to. Yet I have no
right to impose my views on other people, so I don't think it should be
penalized.

Though it looks a little funny I should say : I don't think it should be
penalized. I'd hate to see an underage kid in prison, I don't think that is
correct.
BTW, probably the age you consider "underage sex", and the one I would
consider it are very different and I don't see why I should let your notions
of underage have any bearing on the education of MY kids.
Now, are you happy? Do you need more examples?



> -----Original Message-----
> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf
> Of Ricardo Aráoz
> Sent: Friday, 9 April 2010 10:11 AM
> To: ProFox Email List
> Subject: Re: [OT] You picked a fine time to lead us...
>
> geoff wrote:
>   
>> If you actually read what I say you will notice that I wasnt making it a
>> hard and fast rule. I was making it a general observation which means
>>     
> there
>   
>> are exceptions and differences in the application of this observation as
>> well as times when it is absolutely true. You dont seem to see the
>> inconsistency in replacing one erroneous absolutism with another. In
>>     
> general
>   
>> terms, that which we fail to restrict or penalize we give implicit
licence
>> to. In your example you DO give licence to Communism and drinking while
>> personally supporting neither. Clear enough or do you want another round
>>     
> on
>   
>> the pendatry merry-go-round?
>>   
>>     
> Let's go another round.
> I don't support drinking, I discourage my daughter and anyone else to
> drink alcohol. I think drinking is a disgusting and unhealthy addiction
> and I don't give any implicit or explicit license to. Yet I have no
> right to impose my views on other people, so I don't think it should be
> penalized.
> Clear enough or do you want another round on the merry-go-round? (notice
> I'm exercising my christian forgiveness and not referring to pedantry,
> I'm not penalizing you for being uncharitable)
>
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On
Behalf
>> Of Ricardo Aráoz
>> Sent: Friday, 9 April 2010 9:12 AM
>> To: ProFox Email List
>> Subject: Re: [OT] You picked a fine time to lead us...
>>
>> geoff wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> || I'm not saying it's similar nor dissimilar, I'm saying the equation
>>>     
>>>       
>> "not
>>   
>>     
>>> penalize = support" is really stupid.||
>>>
>>> actually what YOU are saying is quite silly. In very general terms we DO
>>> support what we fail to restrict or penalise
>>>     
>>>       
>> Really? Prove it!
>>
>> I don't support communism, but I don't think communism should be
>> penalized in my country. I don't support drinking, but I don't think
>> drinking should be penalized.
>>
>> Now, just prove both my assertions are false.
>> Christ, these people!
>>
>>
>>     
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