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On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Thomas Costigliola <[email protected]>wrote: > Got it now. But I still need some rest to really understand it. > > Here is more weirdness: > > 1 2 ]@v 1 2 3 > 2 3 > 3 4 > 4 5 > 1 2 v 1 2 3 > |length error: v > | 1 2 v 1 2 3 > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> yes. >> >> It's not a special-code trick. v is a verb. ] could be anything, and >> the same weirdness would result. >> >> 1 2 v 2 3 >> 3 5 >> 1 2 (v) 2 3 >> 3 5 >> 1 2 ]@v 2 3 >> 3 4 >> 4 5 >> 1 2 ]@(v) 2 3 >> 3 4 >> 4 5 >> >> >> Henry Rich >> >> >> On 6/7/2013 6:43 PM, Dan Bron wrote: >> >>> My question #2 had two clauses with opposite senses (i.e. it was an >>> either/or question), so an unqualified "no" is an ambiguous response. Let >>> me phrase it as a strict yes/no question: >>> >>> Does x ]@(v) y necessarily produce the same result as x ]@v y ? >>> >>> I'm trying to prune out lines of inquiry which would be unsurprising or >>> at least mundane. Since adverbs can see their entire verbal argument, >>> phrases like ]@+/ and ]@(+/) are fundamentally different, even if they >>> produce the same results when applied to arguments. In short, if my v is >>> given access to the ]@ then all sorts of doors are opened (this is actually >>> how most special code is implemented) and the puzzle is not so interesting. >>> >>> >>> If, on the other hand, we're taking about a ]@(v) which differs from >>> plain (v), that is very interesting; and if the DoJ does in fact legitimize >>> it (or at least fail to prohibit it), then it is fascinating! >>> >>> -Dan >>> >>> Please excuse typos; composed on a handheld device. >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> 1 yes; 2 no; 3 not exactly specified; guess incorrect >>>> >>>> Henry Rich >>>> >>>> On 6/7/2013 4:36 PM, Dan Bron wrote: >>>> >>>>> Three questions: >>>>> >>>>> #1 Is v necessarily a verb? >>>>> #2 Does the effect depend upon v being anonymous, or will it work >>>>> if v is assigned to a name and/or wrapped in parens? >>>>> #3 Is the effect indicated, contraindicated, or unspecified by the >>>>> Dictionary? >>>>> >>>>> -Dan >>>>> >>>>> PS: My initial guess is this is almost certainly a bug introduced by >>>>> some >>>>> special-code optimization. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: >>>>> programming-bounces@forums.**jsoftware.com<[email protected]> >>>>> [mailto:programming-bounces@**forums.jsoftware.com<[email protected]>] >>>>> On Behalf Of Henry Rich >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 3:14 PM >>>>> To: Programming forum >>>>> Subject: [Jprogramming] A puzzle >>>>> >>>>> For what sort of v does >>>>> >>>>> ]@v >>>>> >>>>> give different results than >>>>> >>>>> v >>>>> >>>>> ? No side effects. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 1 2 v 1 2 >>>>> 2 4 >>>>> 1 2 ]@v 1 2 >>>>> 2 3 >>>>> 3 4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Henry Rich >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>> ---------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/** >>>>> forums.htm <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>>> ---------- >>>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/** >>>>> forums.htm <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>>> >>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>>> ---------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/** >>>> forums.htm <http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >>> ---------- >>> For information about J forums see >>> http://www.jsoftware.com/**forums.htm<http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >>> >>> ------------------------------**------------------------------** >> ---------- >> For information about J forums see >> http://www.jsoftware.com/**forums.htm<http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
