@Henry - I think I'll wait and see what you do with RankInfo before I start
my bulk update. The devil is in the detail.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Henry Rich <henryhr...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> @Ian - I will start on the RankInfo page.  It will point to some pages TBD
> that discuss agreement, fill, and rank in detail.
>
> I suggest that the dyadic 1 _ rank title be changed from
>
> Rank Infinity...
>
> to
>
> Rank 1,Infinity...
>
> Also I think additional entries are needed for those modifiers that take
> the rank from one of the operands - mu lu mu mv etc.
>
> I think @ and @:, and & and &: and &. and &.:, will need to point to
> special pages of their own.  Every J beginner hits the same problem with
> these.  This can be a hand-edit to these pages.
>
> u;.n will also be a hand-edit, since the rank of the derived verb depends
> on n.
>
>
> Henry Rich
>
>
> On 1/22/2014 8:43 AM, Ian Clark wrote:
>
>> Re Rank Information on Nuvoc portal page: I've implemented something which
>> I hope fits the bill for now, until someone can come up with a technically
>> satisfying alternative.
>>
>> Initially the Nuvoc page comes up as-is, but a prominent link lets you see
>> an alternative page with ranks shown for every relevant primitive:
>> "See this page <http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/NuVocWithRank> with
>> details
>>
>> of verb ranks"
>> ...No it's not beautiful, but no one is forced to look at it.
>>
>> IMO this doesn't lessen the need for Henry's proposal. If everyone is
>> happy, I'll make arrangements with Chris Burke for a bulk update as per
>> the
>> mashup:
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Voctest/eq_iac2
>>
>> @Henry -thanks for offer. The only help I need is if you could please
>> write
>> the content for the singe page:
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Vocabulary/RankInfo
>> I hope this page is final in terms of structure like headings and
>> Anchor-targets, which I've made to your spec. If you want to change any of
>> these, please tell me real soon before I alter 100-odd pages to point to
>> it.
>>
>> @Henry & everyone - yes go ahead and edit the Nuvoc collection. I'm not
>> asserting sole ownership of it -- it's on a wiki after all. PM me if you
>> want to draw my attention to an alteration once you've made it. Not to ask
>> my permission, just to help me keep up-to-date.
>>
>> I'll post a warning before my bulk-update, and again when it's done. Be
>> warned: in the intervening period any edits of individual pages will
>> regress.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Jan-Pieter Jacobs <
>> janpieter.jac...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  I agree, tool tips would be a pain for people using a tablet. For other
>>> people, it would probably take a bit before discovering them, and
>>> linking a
>>> description in words in a tooltip to a page explaining it would probably
>>> be
>>> a pain.
>>>
>>> I don't know enough about moinmoin but would it be an idea to provide a
>>> switch button to switch colouring based on part of speech or rank?
>>>
>>> Another thing I have not seen pop up, but what with ranks of derived
>>> verbs,
>>> the ones generated by the application of adverbs and conjunctions?
>>> JP.
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